Wednesday, October 26, 2011

This blog is spooky and it's creepy...and timely...

First, an announcement...

You may have heard that January there would a a crossover fiction convention.  That has been put off for now.  But I am pleased to announce that I will be hosting a radio talk show called "THE TELEVISION CROSSOVER UNIVERSE" starting next month, which I'm very excited about.  I hope everyone tunes in.

OK, enough promotion, lets move onto the blog.  The Addams Family is complicated.  When researching this, I've had to think, is this one long lived family?  Is it different families?  I think I solved my problem.  We'll see.

Oh, and based on Google Analytics, my most popular blogs involve super-heroes, cartoons, or have pictures.  This will have all of those, so this one should rock.  LOL

Oh, and I want to add that I met the actress who played Wednesday Addams at Spooky World back in the early 90s, and got her autograph, but sadly that signed photo was destroyed when my mom's basement flooded.

Sadly I wish I could have also met Morticia.  ;-)

1938 to 1988--THE NEW YORKER--"The Addams Family"--Original comic strips.  Note the characters don't seem to age, and this fits in with a later 1980s crossover as well as appearances in the 1970s.

1962--THE ADDAMS FAMILY--I'm placing the 1991 film here, in my tradition of making film remakes into prequels.  Just ignore the pop culture and tech references.  Otherwise it fits perfectly.

1962 to 1965--THE ADDAMS FAMILY--This is the early 1990s animated series, which is based on a combination of the film, the original series, and the comic strip.

1963--ADDAMS FAMILY VALUES--This may provide a link to the revival live action series.  Pay attention to the ending.

1963--ADDAMS FAMILY:  PUGGSLEY'S SCAVENGER HUNT--Video game based on cartoon.

1964--ADDAMS FAMILY REUNION--TV movie continuing from the films.

1964 to 1966--THE ADDAMS FAMILY--The saga of a family doing their own thing.

Summer 1966--BATMAN--"The Penguin's Nest"--The Dynamic Duo encounter Lurch, butler for the ADDAMS FAMILY.  The Riddler II (Gomez Addams) operated briefly in the 1960s.

1966--THE ADDAMS FAMILY--In one episode, that I can't place, Gomez Addams gets bonked on the head and suddenly takes the identity of the Riddler, revealing that the second Riddler on the Batman TV show played by John Astin is Gomez Addams.

1967--ROBOT CHICKEN--"A Day at the Circus"--Thing tries to make it on his own.

1969--THE STORYBOOK SQUARES--Morticia appears on this game show along with MR. MAGOO.

December 1971--THE NEW SCOOBY-DOO MOVIES--"Scooby-Doo Meets the Addams Family (aka Wednesday is Missing)"--The title says is all.  

1973--THE ADDAMS FAMILY FUN-HOUSE--The family tries to host a musical variety show, but it doesn't make it past this unaired pilot.

1973 to 1975--THE ADDAMS FAMILY--There's no reason not to include this animated series which continues in the style of the 1960s series and is drawn like the version from the Scooby-Doo meeting.

October 1977--HALLOWEEN WITH THE NEW ADDAMS FAMILY--Reveals that Gomez and Fester have another brother named Pancho, and that there are two new children, Puggsley Junior and Wednesday Junior.

Late 1980s--SOCIETY OF UNORDINARY YOUNG LADIES--A still young Wednesday has developed powers and is recruited to join a team with PUNKY BREWSTER and Evie Garland (OUT OF THIS WORLD).  LASSIE is also on the team.  Their mission is two rescue the girls of FACTS OF LIFE.  Their boss is Charles (CHARLES IN CHARGE) and his boss is Ricky Stratton (SILVER SPOONS.)  The duo from BOSOM BUDDIES and Kimberly Drummond (DIFF'RENT STOKES) as well well as the characters from NIGHT COURT also appear.  (I may be missing something.  Feel free to check and let me know.)  Fun series, but I wonder why it ended after four issues, after getting good reviews. This might fit in the tvcu but there are some things that don't fit. This would negate the facts of life reunions. Drummond didn't die in the 80s. He was in the fresh prince. Ricky Stratton should be the same age as the other kids, not an adult. The Addams family depicted is drawn like the 60s version but would have to be the 80s version. All the series referenced would have to have ended prior to Chernobyl. And I have to look up if curly Horton is supposed to be significant.

1989--FESTER'S QUEST--Uncle Fester tries to save the world from aliens.

1991--ADDAMS GROOVE--MC Hammer meets the Addams.

1994--The family goes to Japan where they really love the new Honda.

1998 to 2000--THE NEW ADDAMS FAMILY--Despite being a remake of sorts, I believe this is a different family.  John Astin (who was the original Gomez) plays Grandpa Addams (no first name given) which may imply that the Gomez Addams of the new series is the son of the original, i.e. Gomez Addams Junior.  And it would be just like an Addams to marry someone just like his mother and have kids just like his siblings.  Of course, there is then the implication that Gomez Addams Junior may in fact be Pugsley Addams.  Of course, there is also the possibility that the new Morticia is Wednesday, and that this new Gomez is actually a boy she met long ago in summer camp who fell for Wednesday and even began acting like Gomez.

2007 to 2008--A crossover with M & M's.


BROADWAY UNIVERSE--There is currently a musical based on the comic strip.  It may fit within the TVCU, but since I don't have enough info, I have to place it here for now.  This version of the family has appeared on THE LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN.

"Sure tell Christmas is coming round; 
everybody gets kiss-happy!"Uncle Fester'The Addams Family'

Monday, October 10, 2011

El Santo y Blue Demon, campeones de México

El blog de hoy es acerca de los héroes de El Santo y Blue Demon. Estos dosluchadores son super-héroes que lucha contra monstruos. Tienen numerosas apariciones en crossover tanto ganar, así como la línea de tiempo Chuck Loridan deMONSTAAH. Así que obviamente vamos a utilizar las fuentes de muchos de mis investigaciones, pero espero ir más allá y encontrar material del additonal para complementar lo que los dos grandes eruditos han descubierto.

Y no se preocupe, la propia línea de tiempo será en Inglés. Pero no es la manera mejor y más adecuada para hacer una introducción a este tema?

Ahora, en el blog ... (Ah, y si este español era incorrecto, echarle la culpa al traductor de Google).

(Yes, the top part is in Spanish.  Go get a translator if you must before continuing on, or just continue on and figure out why.)

1572--EL SANTO AND BLUE DEMON VS. DRACULA AND THE WOLFMAN--A wizard named Cristaldi destroys Dracula's Mexican soul clone.  Dracula has created several soul clones that he sent around the world for various missions to gain control of that area (and eventually the world.)

1957 to 1987--EL SANTO--This is a comic book featuring the adventures of the heroic wrestler.

1958--THE EVIL BRAIN--An El Santo adventure.

1958 to 1982--EL SANTO FILM SERIES--El Santo appeared in 62 films total.  Normally I would list all of them, but with little real info to go off of, I am only listing the most relevant.  You can find a full list at either Wikipedia or IMDB.

1958--THE INFERNAL MEN--An El Santo adventure.

1962--SANTO CONTRA LAS MUJERES VAMPIROS or its English translation, SAMSON VS. THE VAMPIRE WOMEN--The latest in the long line of heroes to call themselves El Santo debuts, putting a stop to Dracula's vampire women.

1964 to 1977-BLUE DEMON FILM SERIES--Though not as many as El Santo, Blue Demon still appeared in 25 films.  He was the leader of the Champions of Justice (Mil MáscarasTinieblasRayo de Jalisco, El Medico Asesino, El Fantasma Blanco, El Avispon Escarlata and Superzan).

1965--EL BARON BRACKULA--El Santo dispatches the Baron, who is an old foe of El Santo's ancestor, the Silver Masked Horseman.

Summer 1968--SANTO IN THE TREASURE OF DRACULA--The newest in the line of the El Santo heroic lineage invents a time machine (though it seems he might have had collaboration, considering the machine is much like that seen in THE TIME TUNNEL.)  His collaborator is Dr. Sepulveda.  Before he can use it, Sepulveda's daughter Luisa enters and travels back in time to the 19th century, where the Mexican soul clone falls for her and turns her.  She is pulled back to the present.  The Mexican clone is resurrected and seeks out Luisa.

1970--SANTO AND BLUE DEMON AGAINST THE MONSTERS--Amongst the monsters is Mummy X.

1971--SANTO VS. LA HIJA DE FRANKESTEIN or it’s english translation SANTO VS FRANKENSTEIN’S DAUGHTER--El Santo defeats Dr. Freda Frankenstein.

Winter 1972--EL SANTO AND BLUE DEMON VS. DRACULA AND THE WOLFMAN--Mexican super-heroes/wrestlers El Santo and Blue Demon take on the Mexican Dracula soul clone and a werewolf.

Summer 1972--3 DEV ADAM (3 MIGHTY MEN AKA CAPTAIN AMERICA AND SANTO VS. SPIDER-MAN--El Santo teams with Captain America in Istanbul against a villain using the name of Spider-Man.

1973-- SANTO Y BLUE DEMON CONTRA EL DR. FRANKENSTEIN--El Santo and Blue Demon foil the plot of Dr. Irving Frankenstein.

1982--FURY OF THE KARATE EXPERTS--El Santo retires from adventure and the ring following this adventure.

February 5, 1984--El Santo dies of a heart attack.

December 16, 2000--Death of Blue Demon.

2001--JESUS CHRIST VAMPIRE HUNTER--Jesus lives on Earth, where he teams with El Santo to kill vampires in Canada.  (Or someone who poses as Jesus if you really are bothered by the concept.)

2002 to 2005--!MUCHA LUCHA!--El Santo has returned from the dead, posing under a new name of El Rey.

2004--SANTO--El Santo apparently returns for more adventure.


2005--¡MUCHA LUCHA!: GIGANTE--The Magnificent 3 -- Las Tres Mascaritas (Rikochet, Beuna Girl, and the Flea) are joined by Blue Demon Jr against vampires during an eclipse.

2007 to 2008--EL TIGRE:  THE ADVENTURES OF MANNY RIVERA--El Santo now calls himself Silver Sombrero and has taken to wearing a hat.

2009--IRIS WILDTHYME AND THE CELESTIAL OMNIBUS--Iris Wildthyme, a character who originates in the Doctor Who Universe, travels to the TVCU for further adventure where she meets El Santo, now calling himself Senor 105.

2010--MS. WILDTHYME AND FRIENDS INVESTIGATE--The female time traveler from another reality continues her adventures, again encountering El Santo and also meeting Professor Challenger.

Sunday, October 2, 2011

Abraham Lincoln in the TVCU

Another Investigation by James Bojaciuk

Hello once more, shared-universe fans. I hasten to point out once more that I am not the singularly ugly person to the left. That is Abraham Lincoln, one of our greatest presidents ever. And unlike previous Presidents we've chronicled here, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, Mr. Lincoln has an impressive history of crossovers and fictional appearences built up around himself.

But then, we should expect nothing less from one of the best friends of Bill and Ted, the Great Ones.

It should be noted here at the outset that this article relys heavily on the theory that Bill S. Preston, ESQ and Ted Theodore Logan are the founders of the Time Lord race. Their music informed all aspects of Time Lord society, and until the Last Great Time War destroyed them, made the Time Lords a shining light to all of space. Bill and Ted's successive phone booths were generation after generation of the newly explored time travel technology. This theory will be explored more in depth when the upcoming Bill and Ted timeline is published.


February 12, 1809—Abraham Lincoln is born in Illinois.

1848-1849—Flash for Freedom!; George MacDonald Fraser
Harry Flashman, the famous Victorian “hero” who was actually a markedly lucky villain meets a young Abe Lincoln. He has an immense dislike for the tricky (and honest, horror of horrors) future president. During this time Lincoln is a member of the Illinois House of Representatives.

The Flashman novels are in the TVCU via the short story “Flashman and the Tiger” in which he encountered Sherlock Holmes, and references in Philip José Farmer’s landmark biography Tarzan Alive.

March 4, 1861—Abraham Lincoln becomes President of the United Sates of America.

April 12, 1861—The American Civil War begins.

1861—The Time Tunnel—“The Death Trap”
“Doug and Tony next find themselves on the outskirts of Baltimore, in 1861, where they encounter a fanatical family of abolitionists who intend to murder Abraham Lincoln when the president passes through en route to his inauguration. They hope to plunge the country into a war that will end slavery. Jeremiah, the leader, has devised a clock operated explosive he intends to place on the president's train. Doug and Tony have their hands full, since the President's chief spy, Allan Pinkerton, believes they are the threat!” IMDB review written by CommanderBalok

1862—Jughead’s Time Police #5
Jughead’s Time Police revealed that Jughead was, by some accident or mistake, the ace agent of the Time Police—and that his seeming lack of interest in girls was because he was secretly dating his partner, January McAndrews (Archie’s great-great-great granddaughter).

As for this issue, “Jughead has been studying the history of the American Civil War (1861 - 1865). He is particularly interested in the Battle of Riverdale. A Union force defending the city was about to fall to a Confederate invasion force. But a mysterious Colonel Pickens appeared from nowhere, led a successful counterattack, before dissappearing. Modern Riverdale hoors him as a hero. Studying images of the man, Jughead realized why he looked familiar: Pickens was Jughead in disguise. Time to travel back towards the War and play his part in the battlefield. Or else the Confederates will capture a guest to Riverdale, Abraham Lincoln, and the War will take a different course.” Summary by Comic Vine

January 1863—Doctor Who: Backtime; Dick O’Neil and Frank Langford, published in Countdown 33-39
The Third Doctor gives Lincoln detailed plans about the Battle of Gettysburg to ensure a Union Victory.

Readers may object to the number of Doctor Who references on this particular timeline. But remember, Bill and Ted were the founders of both the TVCU Time Lord race and the Whoiverse Time Lord race—and so the Doctor would have an express interest in preserving the personal timelines of the Great Ones’ Historical Dudes to preserve his own existence.

1863—The Amazing Screw-On Head; Mike Mignola
From Wikipedia: “Screw-On Head is an agent for President Abraham Lincoln. He is summoned by Lincoln to track down Emperor Zombie, an undead occultist and originally a groundskeeper at Hyde Park. Zombie and his henchmen, the vampire Madam and scientist Dr. Snap, have stolen an ancient manuscript. This will allow him access to the temple of Gung, a warlord who nearly conquered the world over ten thousand years ago with supernatural power gained from "a fabulous melon-sized jewel", which Zombie obviously plans to use for himself.”

At the end of the story, Screw-On is given orders to take care of anything supernatural lurking in the western territories.

April 5, 1865—Doctor Who: Blood and Hope; Iain McLaughlin
The Fifth Doctor protects Lincoln from an assassination attempt in Richmond, Virginia.

April 14, 1865—Doctor Who: Minuet in Hell; radio drama
The Eighth Doctor warns Lincoln not to go to the theater, but Lincoln does not take his advice. It is unclear why the Doctor wished to interfere with historical events, especially events that struck to close to the histories of the Great Ones.

April 15, 1865—Touched by an Angel—“Beautiful Dreamer”
“…On April 14, 1865 Sam and Andrew arrive in post-Civil War Washington. Sam tells Andrew, then a caseworker, of his next assignment, Mr. Booth. Andrew meets Booth backstage at Ford's Theater, where stagehands are busily preparing for the evening's play. At the White House, Abraham Lincoln and his wife Mary make plans to attend the play. Monica, currently working in Annunciations, arrives as Mrs. Lincoln's seamstress. While Monica fits her dress, Mrs. Lincoln confides in Monica her worry for her husband's health, especially in light of a recent dream the President has had. That afternoon Andrew approaches Booth in a saloon outside the theater, and after a political discussion, comes to realize the depth of Booth's hatred for Lincoln. Andrew realizes Booth plans to kill the President. Meanwhile, Monica speaks to the President about his dream. Lincoln realizes that Monica is an angel and he tells her of the dream, in which he sees his corpse laying in the White House. Monica comforts Lincoln, and assures him that, whatever lies ahead, his work will be continued. The Lincoln's go to the theater. Booth, having a few drinks before the show, is delighted to learn that Lincoln's bodyguard is also in the saloon. Andrew struggles over stopping Booth from killing Lincoln, but Sam tells him they cannot interfere with a human's free will. Booth shoots Lincoln and flees the theater. Later Andrew appears to Booth in the barn he is using as a hideout, revealing himself to be an angel, and tells Booth that he did not act according to God's will, but that God offers Booth forgiveness. Booth is shot by a soldier and dies, unable to ask God for forgiveness. Andrew reports back to Sam, who informs him that God has a new job for him. God wants Andrew to be An Angel of Death, and his first assignment is to escort Lincoln home. Back in present-day, Tess takes young Calvin to the Lincoln Memorial, where he admits what he really wants to be when he grows up - the President of the United States”—episode summary from the excellent fan site,

April 15, 1865—Abraham Lincoln is reportedly assassinated by John Wilkes Booth.

There is another curious fact. Over the decades another conspiracy theory has grown up around the assassination, one which records that instead of being a passive victim, Lincoln was forewarned of the attack, and, as the internet tells me, Lincoln shot first!

Some possible evidence for this can be found in the opening sequence of Police Squad.

June 22, 1865—The American Civil War ends.

1883—The Rifleman—“Honest Abe”
Lucas and Mark McCain try to figure out if a seemingly insane man living in their town is actually the ex-president, or an insane man.

1987—Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure
Bill and Ted only want to start a rock band in their garage and slack off for the rest of their lives. But if they fail this year of school, their junior year of high school, Ted will be sent off to military school in Alaska! Worse, in the future their music is responsible for the foundation of a nearly perfect time traveling society—and if Ted goes to Alaska, the future is destroyed. The only way to save their most egregious grades is to pass the History Exam. And that is a most hopeless proposition—especially since their studying tactic is to ask people outside the Circle K random questions about history.

So the future sends them a time traveling phone booth; and so, they must kidnap “Historical Dudes” and use their knowledge to pass the test. Bill and Ted kidnap: Napoleon, Socrates, Billy the Kid, Sigmund Freud, Bach, Beethoven, Genghis Khan, Joan of Arc, and most importantly for our purposes, Abraham Lincoln. The Historical Dudes are arrested for causing a riot at the mall—Lincoln was thought to have stolen his clothes from a gimmick-photo shop—but are rescued by Bill and Ted, and then everyone goes and helps Bill and Ted pass their exam.

Somehow, everything turns out okay.

Crossover notice: the footage of Napoleons troops attacking Moscow comes directly from the 1950s movie version of War and Peace, resulting in a cockeyed crossover between Tolstoy’s novel and Bill and Ted.

1988—At some time around this year, Bill and Ted take Lincoln, Billy the Kid, and Napoleon to a trash festival (Bill and Ted’s Excellent Comic Book #6).

1990—Bill and Ted’s Excellent Comic Book #1
Bill and Ted invite all of their friend to come to see them renew their vows to their Princess Babes Joanna and Elizabeth. Lincoln has, by this point, become one of their closest friends (and the one most likely to randomly party!)—and he assists them in taking care of the time-lost criminals who try and murder Bill and Ted.

Crossover notice: Hergé famous reporter Tintin was also invited to the vow renewal.

1990—Bill and Ted’s Excellent Comic Book #2
In the wake of the vow renewal, Death has retired and ran off with a second-generation TARDIS for a much needed vacation. This would be bad enough, but Hell is giving up its dead and zombies are wondering about Bill and Ted’s house, making a mess of things. Lincoln, Billy the Kid, and Napoleon battle the zombies back—then, later, force them to clean up the mess they’ve made.

Death running off would be bad enough, but this storyline must occur at the same time as Sandman: Season of Mists. Satan has abandoned Hell (for a time, at least) and all of the damned souls are forced back to walk the worlds they left at death, which explains the zombies surrounding Bill, Ted, and Lincoln.

At this time the exact relation between Bill and Ted’s Death and Sandman’s sister, Death, has not yet been fully determined.

1990—Bill and Ted’s Excellent Comic Book #7
In the final part of a many-issued homage to Doctor Who’s “Trial of a Time Lord,” Bill and Ted are rescued from the literal embodiment of time by a cavalry made up of their wives, Abraham Lincoln, Genghis Khan, Billy the Kid, Napoleon, and Death. Also: all of the people who escaped Hell issues ago finally end up back where they belong.

1991—Bill and Ted’s Excellent Comic Book #11
After an entire lifetime spent in our public school system, Bill and Ted finally learn that Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. They embark on a mission to save his life, but only make things worse by twisting time into a paradox that results in a future world where the Soviets won the cold war. Somehow, Bill, Ted, and Death manage to set time right. Though the comic does not say as much, Lincoln agrees to die if it means life for his country.

Death then drags Bill and Ted to Heaven—where Lincoln is Head Party Organizer, and has traded his trademark black suit and stovetop hat for an outfit all in white.

Crossover notice: one of Bill and Ted’s many plans, as seen on their blackboard, is to contact Spider-Man.

1991—Bill and Ted’s Excellent Comic Book #12
Abraham Lincoln is in attendance at the first birthday of Bill and Ted’s sons.

1995—Weird Science—“Community Property”
This episode of Weird Science is the first appearance of Gary Bullock in the role of Abraham Lincoln, a role he would reprise in twice each in Sabrina the Teenage Witch and Teen Angel. I am treating all of Bullock’s appearances as the president as crossovers; Weird Science and Sabrina are already in the TVCU, thus only Teen Angel is brought into the TVCU by Bullock’s Lincoln.

1996—Teen Angel—“Honest Abe and Popular Steve” and “Who’s the Boss”
From Wikipedia, “Teen Angel follows a high school boy, Steve Beauchamp (Corbin Allred), and his recently-deceased best friend, Marty DePolo, (Mike Damus) who, after dying from eating a six-month-old hamburger from under Steve's bed on a dare, hangs around as a kind of dimwitted guardian angel to Allred's character. Ron Glass played God's cousin, Rod. Maureen McCormick, who played Steve's mother, Judy, left the series halfway through its run.”

I include this show on the basis of Gary Bollock’s portrayal of Abraham Lincoln. I’m inclined to treat his Lincoln, which appeared on a number of 1990s television sitcoms, as a crossover of sorts. Thus the inclusion of Teen Angel in the TVCU. It is highly unlikely that Rod is God’s cousin, however; more likely he’s an angel who knew that if he didn’t give himself a highly inflated resume, the dimwitted Marty and Steve would have ignored him.

Per Wikipedia, in the episode “Honest Abe and Popular Steve,” “Marty starts bringing in historical figures to help Steve with his life (Abraham Lincoln to write his history papers, Cleopatra to give him love advice so he can date Homecoming Queen Amy Kosover, Pablo Picasso to design "Steve for Class President" campaign posters, etc.) Rod decides that since Marty has done such a good job with Steve that it's time for him to move on to famous jerk rock star, Sammy Noah (Dee Snider).”

In “Who’s the Boss” Marty and Steve throw a birthday party, inviting both cute girls and famous dead people—among them (the famous dead dudes, not the cute girls) Abraham Lincoln. After his journeys with Bill and Ted, Lincoln has come to love a good party!

2001—Sabrina the Teenage Witch—“Sabrina and the Candidate”
Sabrina’s aunt attempts to get Lincoln to advise her campaign for mayor, but he refuses and returns to Heaven.

One more thing. My sources tell me this picture of Lincoln was taken surely after the Bill and Ted induced "thrash festival."

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