Saturday, November 26, 2011

Crisis in Riverdale

A while back I did a blog on JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS, which led to a flood of comments on THE CROSSOVERS FORUM, especially from James and Ivan, my Spock and Bones, on theories regarding Archie.  Not all the theories presented worked together, but I spent a long time taking everything into account and have hopefully come up with something that has taken the best elements of everyone's ideas.

Perhaps once I write this blog, I'll have the cartoon/comic writing out of my system for a while, and I can tackle another sitcom or cop drama.



52,000 B.C.--ARCHIE 1--Thousands of years before recorded history, the ancestors Archie and the gang live as cavemen, interacting with dinosaurs and other prehistoric beasts. The characters generally make discoveries that will not be considered significant for centuries later, and there is often irony in the characters denouncing as impractical wheelshouses, and so forth.

Approximately 1492 to 1974--U.S. OF ARCHIE--Ancestors of Archie and friends tend to show up at the most important points in U.S. History.  (I couldn't find a decent episode guide so I was unable to go into more detail.)

1862—Jughead’s Time Police #5
Jughead’s Time Police revealed that Jughead was, by some accident or mistake, the ace agent of the Time Police—and that his seeming lack of interest in girls was because he was secretly dating his partner, January McAndrews (Archie’s great-great-great granddaughter).

As for this issue, “Jughead has been studying the history of the American Civil War (1861 - 1865). He is particularly interested in the Battle of Riverdale. A Union force defending the city was about to fall to a Confederate invasion force. But a mysterious Colonel Pickens appeared from nowhere, led a successful counterattack, before dissappearing. Modern Riverdale honors him as a hero. Studying images of the man, Jughead realized why he looked familiar: Pickens was Jughead in disguise. Time to travel back towards the War and play his part in the battlefield. Or else the Confederates will capture a guest to Riverdale, Abraham Lincoln, and the War will take a different course.” Summary by Comic Vine

1934--LITTLE ARCHIE--All of the stories of Archie's younger years are compressed to occur at this time.  THE ARCHIES band would be formed at this time, but would really reach popularity in the 1960 and 1970s.  The band has recently had a come-back.

1941--Riverdale and the surrounding towns are caught in some sort of time stop.  Everyone stops aging, with only some local witches being aware of this.

May 31, 1943 to September 5, 1953--ARCHIE ANDREWS--Radio adaption of the popular comic.

1962--LIFE WITH ARCHIE--The first of two failed live action pilots.

1964--ARCHIE--Unaired pilot that brings some legitimacy to having Archie in a TV blog.

1968--ARCHIE'S PALS'N'GALS # 23--Josie's first appearance.

1968 to 1969--THE ARCHIE SHOW--A continuation of the comic.

1969--JOSIE--The series was renamed in 1965.  Note that beside it's own title, Josie also was featured in other MLJ/Archie Comics titles.

1969 to 1970--THE ARCHIE COMEDY HOUR--The same show as the previous year, but now an hour long with Sabrina segments added.  Note that Archie, Sabrina, and Josie live in different towns, but all go to Riverdale High.  This isn't any different than my high school, which was in my home town, but which was attended by students from four different towns.

1969--ARCHIE AND HIS NEW PALS--Animated special spun off of the animated series and is actually a crossover with characters that appear in the form of vitamins called PALS.  Apparently no longer sold.

1970--JOSIE # 42--Little known fact.  The idea to change Josie to Josie and the Pussycats was in pitching the idea of turning the comic into a cartoon.  This followed the success of making animated version of ARCHIE and SABRINA.  So in preparation, the comic started making the conversion to match the new upcoming cartoon.  In this issue, Josie meets Alan M.

1970 to 2009--JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS (COMICS)--The continuing series whether in their own title or in other titles, ran off and on from 1970 to 2009. Because Riverdale and the surrounding communities are in a time anomaly, the character don't age yet aren't aware that they don't age.  Note that even though the film says they are in Riverdale, actually, Josie lives in Midvale, while Sabrina lives in Greendale.  My thoughts is that Riverdale is the largest of the towns.  It's like how people in Cambridge say they are from Boston.  Archie, Josie, and Sabrina interacted from time to time, and they also interacted with MLJ super-heroes.  Interestingly, time passes for the MLJ super-heroes but not the humor characters. 

1970 to 1971--ARCHIE'S FUN HOUSE--The Archies are starting to make it as a band.

1971 to 1973--ARCHIE'S TV FUNNIES--Archie and the gang run a TV station that shows cartoons based on comic strips.  The cartoons they show are Dick Tracy, Nancy and Sluggo, Broom Hilda, and more, but there is no actual crossover here.

1977--THE NEW ARCHIE/SABRINA HOUR--It's new.  It's Archie.  It's Sabrina.  It's an hour.

1978--ABC SATURDAY COMEDY SPECIAL--"Archie"--Pilot for a new animated series.

1978--THE ARCHIE SITUATION COMEDY MUSICAL VARIETY SHOW--Was a pilot for another animated series which didn't' do to well.  Apparently the Archies' fame was fading.

1987--THE NEW ARCHIES--They are still the same Archies, just trending to new styles and lingo.  Which is interesting.  Everyone physically stopped aging, but trends from the outside world still affected Riverdale.

1989—Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Meets Archie
This one is only slightly more insane than Archie Meets the Punisher. Here, the Ninja Turtles are brought back to earth from a meeting with aliens to score some pizza—of course they land in Riverdale. And this being an Archie crossover, Josie and the Pussycats are stopping there on their tour.

Shortly after the turtles arrive in town, Veronica is kidnapped by kidnappers (who else?), and Archie, Betty, Jughead, and the Turtles team up to save her! 

NOTE: I place these two stories together because the Power Rangers in Space episodes send the TMNT to outer space, where the Archie comic begins with the Turtles being unceremoniously dropped, by aliens, on the outskirts of Riverdale. The tales fit together like a jigsaw puzzle.

1990--ADVENTURES OF FORD FAIRLANE--The case Fairlane is on involves rock bands, or somesuch, but one of the bands mentioned is The Pussycats, which has the lead singer Josie.

That would be interesting enough, but the movie drops a large number of other music based crossovers. Ellen Aim and the Attackers is from the Diane Lane flick Streets of Fire (1984); Nakatomi Boys Choir is a reference to the first Die Hard movie, which took place in the Nakatomi building in Nakatomi Plaza (perhaps Mr. Nakatomi was also a boy's choir bandleader--billionares have had stranger hobbies); The Nine Sisters is a band referenced in the film Xanadu.

Another band is named Alba Varden after the bad guy's ship in Lethal Weapon 2. Perhaps the bad was inspired by newspaper reports of Riggs and Murtaugh's adventures.

1994--ARCHIE MEETS THE PUNISHER--The Punisher comes to Riverdale.  Josie and the Pussycats perform at a dance.  Besides the title crossover, Dino Manelli (from Sgt. Fury's Howling Commandos) Josie and the Pussycats, and Gotham City all appear. 

Dino Manelli is an interesting one. As his name implies, he's based on Dean Martin; but instead of being a look-alike analogue for Martin, Manelli is literally Martin with a lawyer friendly name. Both had hit film careers, record deals and such. The final evidence is that when Martin had the hit Dean Martin Show, Manelli had The Dino Show. Since they are one and the same (at least for TVCU purposes), Archie Meets the Punisher would have to take place before Martin's death in 1995.

October 1994--SIMPSONS--"Sideshow Bob Roberts"--Archie, Reggie, Moose, and Jughead make a brief cameo; they pull up to the Simpson's house tossing Homer Simpson out of Archie's car as Moose warns Homer, 'Duh, stay out of Riverdale!'. Later in the episode, Homer is seen reading Archie Comics, plotting revenge on 'those Riverdale punks.'"

Of course, Homer is from a seperate universe.  However, there are various locations in the TVCU that have portals to the Looniverse.  Likely Riverdale, being in a time lock as is, is one of those portals.  Other crossovers:  
Millie the Model, Katy Keene, Patsy Walker (the Hellcat!), Hedy Wolfe, That Wilkin Boy (Jughead's cousin) and Sabrina the Teenaged Witch. At one point Sabrina apparently comments: "So I asked the Doctor if the Hosts of Hoggoth were really hoary," which means at least once she's consulted with Dr. Strange.

This link shows that Red was probably the one-time star of Freckles and His Friends--an Archie rip-off. Also it reveals that all of his thugs were one-time stars of Teen Humor comics. There are a number of other obsecure crossovers mentioned that I didn't catch when I read Archie Meets the Punisher.

2001--Archie's Weird Mysteries--"Scarlet Night" and "I Was a Teenaged Vampire,"--James Bojaciuk 
I have one final Archie crossover for you, Robert

In the two-parter episode of Archie's Weird Mysteries "Scarlet Night" and "I Was a Teenaged Vampire," the Riverdale Gang is attacked by a teenaged vampire named Scarlet Van Helsing. It seems in life she was a member of the famous vampire hunting clan. Perhaps a vampire turned her as a personal trophy.

The henchman vampires are visually identical to Morbius the Living Vampire. Since there are two seeming Morbiuses, it's strongly possible that these two bloodsuckers are the result of Morbius' failed experiment in the production of soul-clones.

That is enough of a crossover in and of itself. But if we peel back the layers of the story, there is enough evidence to make a case that the story connects to Buffy mythology. The "Big Bad" of the episode is Count Medlock, a master-vampire visually identical to The Master, arch-villain from the first few seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He intends to fulfill a prophecy that will bring about eternal night (which, if I'm not hopelessly confused in my Buffy mythology, is what the Master was trying to do in the first season of Buffy). Interestingly, Veronica is revealed to be the latest in a long line of vampire-slaying young women.

Yes, you read that right, Veronica Lodge is a Slayer.

Both "Scarlet Night" and "I Was a Teenaged Vampire" can easily be found on Youtube.

2003--THE ARCHIES IN JUGMAN--The Jughead from ARCHIE 1 is unthawed in the present.

2004--HACK/SLASH # 6-- A much more conventional Archie story--with only a normal slasher attacking the gang--is told

October 31, 2004--HACK/SLASH # 28/ARCHIE MEETS KISS--James Bojaciuk
So...Since this comic has Riverdale covered with zombies, vampires, and such because of one of Sabrina's misfired spells; so this must happen at the same time as the Hack/Slash storyline where Riverdale was freed from the timelock spell.

Yep. That's another sentence I never expected to type.

After that--Hack/Slash Trailers #2--But...Hack/Slash Trailers #2 has a bizarre short story that opens with a normally drawn Archie trying to buy beer--and then being attacked by Great Old Ones. The rest of the story has Cassie and Vlad at a camp where girls keep being killed--but Cassie and Vlad don't seem to be too concerned. Perhaps the story was exaggerated for "comedic" effect.

On the plus side, that story does give some level of evidence that the timelock spell was restored.

February 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Xandir and Tim, Sitting in a Tree"--
  • Captain Hero's secret identity, Tim Tommerson, has a relationship with Xandir, which Captain Hero does not approve of.
  • PLUTO holds GOOFY hostage because he wants to wear pants.  This takes place in Toon Town, apparently not demolished for a freeway after the events of WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT?
  • There is a crime scene at THE FAMILY CIRCUS home.
  • ELMER FUDD and Tantor from DISNEY'S TARZAN appear in a street scene in Toon Town.
  • ARCHIE ANDREWS is seen at an arcade.  Archie comes from the TVCU.  The town of Riverdale and surrounding communities caught in a time anomoly.  Perhaps this is how residents manage to visit the Looniverse.
  • DILBERT is seen at the ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY office.  Also at the office are EWOKS.
  • Foxxy is in possession of a Starfleet tricorder.  It seems that the events of Star Trek seems to take place in the Looniverse in the 20th to 21st centuries and the Enterprise is always visiting Earth.

May 2010--ARCHIE # 608--Archie begins dating Valerie of JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS when their two bands are touring together.

At some point in the future--The time stop is broken.  Archie and his gang graduate from high school.  Everyone in Riverdale begins to age normally.

15 years after the time stop ends--ARCHIE:  TO RIVERDALE AND BACK AGAIN--As the gang prepare for their 15th high school reunion, their teenage years are only memories. Archie is an attorney engaged to image-conscious Pam, while Jughead (Sam Whipple) is a neurotic psychiatrist with a troublemaking son (dubbed "Jughead Junior" by Archie). An elementary school teacher and aspiring novelist, Betty is engaged to Robert Miller, who is jealous of Archie. Living in France, Veronica charters a Concorde to attend the reunion. She remains in love with Archie, who still has divided feelings for Betty and Veronica.
Moose Mason (Jeff Hochendoner) and Midge Klump (Debi Derryberry) are married chiropractors, while Big Ethel (Cindy Ambuehl) is a beautiful model. Having worked for Mr. Lodge (James Noble), Reggie (Gary Kroeger) owns several businesses. Reggie plans to demolish Pop Tate's to gain extra space for his gym, which Archie contests in court. In the end, Archie breaks up with Pam, Jughead moves back to Riverdale to open a practice, and Betty plans to teach in Riverdale High. Veronica stays for a while before going back to Paris, and Reggie is forgiven. Panned by both fans and critics, this pilot film was not picked up for a series run.

About 17 years after the time stop ends--ARCHIE # 600 to 606--Archie marries Veronica, and ends up with twins, a boy and a girl.  Note the boy is named Archie, and looks like his dad, following the tradition of the Archies of the past and future.  In the mirror universe, Archie marries Betty.

About 19 years after the time stop ends--CRIME:  THE LAST OF THE INNOCENT--Archie decides he has to murder his wife, Veronica.

Late 22nd century?--ARCHIE'S FUTURE FUN--Originally known as Archie 2001, this mini-series is a partial opposite to Archie 1, in that it involves the gang's presumed descendants living in the 22nd century, with technology such as robots, "futuristic" clothes and domed buildings, yet it is not as advanced as Archie 3000. Some examples of stories include Archie and Jughead using a studying machine at school to "absorb knowledge" of non-school-subjects, Archie constantly scattering Mr. Lodge's grass seeds with his UFO vehicle, and robots taking over people's lives until Jughead programs them to behave like him. This series is not to be confused with Starship Rivda or Archie 3000.

3000--ARCHIE 3000--The complete opposite of Archie B.C. (A.K.A. Archie 1), Archie 3000 displays the (presumed) descendants of Archie and the gang living in the year 3000, which is realized as a 1950s-style art deco world of flying cars, moving sidewalks, domed houses, and gaudy "futuristic" hairstyles and clothes (similar to The Jetsons). Despite the many new breakthroughs in technology, life for Archie and the gang notably hasn't changed much.

32nd century--STARSHIP RIVDA--A spoof of Battlestar Galactica and other such programs, Starship Rivda involved Archie, Betty, Jughead and Veronica as explorers of uncharted galaxies in the titular Starship Rivda. Not to be confused with Archie 3000.


Well, that's it.  I'm gong to throw down some comments here that don't really fit into the timeline.  There is a Robot Chicken appearance which I haven't been able to find to see if it fits.  There is also a softcore porn (it was rated R) about Archie.  But I couldn't find it to verify if it fits.  

It should be noted that Archie regularly crosses with (and thus not worth noting above) SABRINA, JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS, THAT WILKIN BOY, KATY KEENE, and the MLJ super-heroes.  Additionally, Archie and his supporting cast have appeared in hundreds of different comic titles, which you can find anywhere.

A great resource for that sort of thing is MIKE'S AMAZING WORLD OF ARCHIE COMICS.  

I will be updating the Josie blog to adjust for the time stop theory, and will create a separate Sabrina blog.  The other Archie characters are not really worthy of their own blog as they don't have any real solo television presence.


Monday, November 14, 2011

The Looniverse Grows Up: The Drawn Together Blog: The Blog!



From WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT?, we learned that most of the cartoons of the 1940s coexisted.  In the series DRAWN TOGETHER, we once again see that indeed cartoons of all sorts exist in that same reality, which DC COMICS dubbed the Looniverse, a name I've adopted for this blog.

By covering this completely not serious animated series, I will take a very serious look at the cartoon reality.  But first, let's take a look at the characters.

Captain Hero--Captain Leslie Hero was from the planet Zebulon. As a fetus, he was aborted, and blasted to Earth.  He was found by Popeye and Olive Oyle, who named him Popeye Junior, but usually called him Swee'Pea.  As a teen, he moved from Sweet Haven to Small Town.  As an adult, his power developed, and he changed his name to Captain Leslie Hero (and a secret identity of Tim Tommerson).  He was a member of the League of Heroes.

Foxxy Love--Foxxy was in the 1980s the leader of a music group called the Foxxy Five for a few weeks, and is a mystery solving detective.  She is a grandmother, but never sees her kids or grandkids.

Ling-Ling--Ling-Ling seems to be a Pokemon, having been captured as a youth by a young Pokemon master, he later turned on his master, freeing himself.

Princess Clara--Princess Clara lives within a gated community called Disneyland in Anaheim, CA.

Spanky Ham--Spanky is an internet download who is married and has one living child.

Toot Braunstein--Toot was a toon in the 1920s.  She time traveled to the 21st century to be part of the cast.  Later, she will travel back in time to Bedrock and become the mother of Bam-Bam Rubble.

Wooldoor Sockbat--Wooldoor lives to entertain.  His people were wiped out in a holocaust by the Sweetcake people.

Xandir P. Whifflebottom--Xandir was a video game hero on a never ending quest to save a princess.

Munchkin Mouse--He was in every episode. Really, he was always there.  You must have just missed him.  He was in every episode as a member of the house cast.

October 2004--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Hot Tub"--

  • The pilot episode.  Nine cartoon archtype parodies are staying in a house together with a thousand cameras, on the first animated reality show.  
  • Toot dies four times in this episode, but since she is a toon, she is naturally reinstated to the idealized image of her, as is part of the nature of this tulpa reality.
  • Two Smurfs appear at the house party fighting each other.  Smurf Village must be part of the Looniverse.
  • Fred Flintstone's car drives by the house as George Jetson's space car flies over head.  Even though these two are from the stone age and the future, they often time travel to the present, as time is more like a where than a when in the Looniverse.  Note that this Fred is not Ollu.  In the Immortal Befuddled blog I said that the Fred and Barney interacting in the Looniverse was the TVCU Ollu and Buzsla, but I retract that and have decided each reality has it's own variants.  The Jetsons, however, come from the TVCU. In the far future, interdimensional and intertime travel are normal.
November 2004--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Clara's Dirty Little Secret"--
  • In this one, we learn that Clara's step-mother cursed her so that her vagina has become a giant tentacled monster.
  • Prince Charming, after kissing Clara, ends up with his private area also cursed in the same manner, and commits suicide.  But we know that this likely just caused him to be resurrected without the curse.
  • Foxxy listens to a book on tape recorded by DROOPY DOG.
November 2004--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Gay Bash"--
  • Xandir comes out as being gay.
  • There is a Bizarro Captain Hero, and a Bizarro World.  When the SUPER FRIENDS were killed during the CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, their essences were transported to the Looniverse, with all of their friends, enemies, and locations being duplicated by the tulpa reality.
  • Pac Man seems to appear, but in fact it is Ms. Pac Man without her ribbon.  This means that Pac Land is part of the Looniverse.
  • Elmer Fudd appears at the party and is revealed to be gay.  Snagglepuss is also there and also gay.
  • The record player in the house is a Bedrock model complete with talking tiny pteradactyl as the needle.
  • Xandir takes an ACME gay test kit.
  • The genie appearing in this episode seems to be related to the one from ALADDIN.
November 2004--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Requiem for a Reality Show"--
  • The house is divided into two teams, with the winner getting to eat for the next week.
  • Lakitu from SUPER MARIO CART appears, which places Mario's world, Sonic, Donkey Kong, ect. in the Looniverse, though Mario and Luigi may have come originally from the TVCU, which is where Sonic later migrates to.
  • Charlie Brown becomes Foxxy's slave.  (Yes, I imagine some will completely dismiss this entire blog because of this.  
  • Natasha Fatale becomes Captain Hero's dominatrix.  Boris and Natasha are in Crossovers, but most appearances show that they are part of the Looniverse.  I had made assumptions for a while that Rocky and Bullwinkle were in the TVCU, perhaps like Howard the Duck trapped in a world they never made.  And it may be that at some point they went home, and Boris and Natasha followed.
  • Toots mentions that her fingers had been in Pepe le Pew, but not in THE Pepe le Pew.
  • Toot uses ACME liposuction.
December 2004--DRAWN TOGETHER--"The Other Cousin"--
  • Clara's mentally challenged cousin Bleh comes to visit, and ends up in a relationship with Captain Hero, despite Clara's objections.  
  • The "Monkey Man" from THE LOST WORLD has somehow made it to the Live Action Forest just outside the house's yard.  He will appear often.
  • At the amusement park, on a roller coaster are a Jakovasaur and Kyle from SOUTH PARK, and THUNDARR THE BARBARIAN and Ookla the Mok.  This series has made me accept that the Bongo Universe and Looniverse are one and the same.  Thundarr's future didn't seem to be part of the Looniverse, but it's own reality, but perhaps after the series (during the Crisis?) they were transported to the Looniverse.
  • Homer Simpson appears in the background.
  • Bam-Bam Rubble appears as a baby.  This is the biggest clue that there is time travel going on in the Looniverse frequently.  Later, Toots will give birth to Bam-Bam, thus the appearances of the Flintstones aren't necessarily in chronological order.
  • Foxxy appears to be in possession of the Looniverse counterpart of the the "one ring to rule them all" from Middle Earth.  Eventually Clara will steal the ring.
December 2004--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Dirty Pranking No. 2"--
  • Clara is brought to the dark side when she starts playing gross pranks.  This angers her father, who tries to bring her home.
  • Ling-Ling dies twice.
  • A villain named Aladdin is bombing Israel from a magic carpet.  He is not seen.  Since he's not seen, I'm gong to say he's a super-villain not related to DISNEY'S ALADDIN.
December 2004--DRAWN TOGETHER--"The One Wherein There is a Big Twist"--
  • The cast decides to quit.  The network won't allow it.  Eventually the house is blown up and the cast crashes on a desert island.
  • Wooldoor uses a Needler weapon from HALO.
  • The character Bucky Buck is not RICHIE RICH and does not bring in Richie Rich, though that character may already be in.  In fact, it's revealed Bucky Buck is really Jew Producer.  (That's his real name.  Honest.)
  • Clara uses her ring of invisibility.
  • Wooldoor talks to someone named Tank on the phone to download information into his brain.  This is a MATRIX reference but could be a clue to how these characters are often on some level aware they are fictional.
October 2005--DRAWN TOGETHER--"The One Wherein There is a Big Twist Part 2"--
  • The cast has been trapped on a desert island for apparently 10 months.  Toots is lost at sea.  Eventually Jeff Probst (his Looniverse counterpart) shows up to do a SURVIVOR type season but the cast, realizing they are next to an airport, quit and go to Hollywood to cash in on their stardom, only to realize reality show stars are has beens 15 minutes after the show ends.
  • They return to a redrawn house, and get a new cast mate to replace Toots, though she eventually returns.  The new castmate is Strawberry Sweetcake, whose people had turned all of Wooldoor's people into food a long time ago.  She tries to do the same to Wooldoor but is found out.
  • Among those interviewing to be the new cast member are SPEEDY GONZALES, WILMA FLINTSTONE, the animated giant foot from MONTY PYTHON and MORTAL COMBAT's Scorpion.  Also seen are resumes of Blossom and Buttercup of THE POWERPUFF GIRLS, Ookla the Mok from THUDARR THE BARBARIAN, and Tommy Pickles from RUGRATS.
  • When Wooldoor is writing a suicide note, the MICROSOFT OFFICE paperclip tries to help him.
  • Wooldoor wears the same pajamas as the BANANAS IN PAJAMAS.
  • MICKEY MOUSE, CHARLIE BROWN, and WILE E. COYOTE are seen dead on the beach.  Of course, I don't have to reiterate my view on death in the Looniverse.
October 2005--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Foxxy vs. the Board of Education"--
  • Spanky downloads a virus but has no health insurance, so he marries Xandir, whose insurance covers spouses.  Meanwhile, Foxxy is trying to take the SAT and uncovers a conspiracy.
  • Foxxy finds the conspiracy is run by THE BOARD OF EDUCATION from SCHOOLHOUSE ROCK.
  • At a hospital waiting room, Bubbles of THE POWERPUFF GIRLS is pregant, Ariel THE LITTLE MERMAID is being choked by having one of those soda six pack plastic containers around her neck,  BAMBI accompanying his wounded mother (who died decades ago, which implies more time travel...note that most of Bambi's appearances are before he grew up in the Looniverse meaning perhaps the movie's ending hasn't happened yet), BULLWINKLE with ROCKY stuck up his rear end, SONNY for being too cuckoo for COCOA PUFFS, and JOE CAMEL in an iron lung.
  • Elroy Jetson is abducted.
  • Josie (from JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS) and Daphne (of SCOOBY-DOO) are seen solving mysteries.  Both are from the TVCU, but have found ways to access the Looniverse, which helps stop their aging.
  • PARAPPA THE RAPPER, (MY NEIGHBOR) TOTORO, Usagi Tsukini (SAILOR MOON), VOLTRON, ASTRO BOY, Joe Jitsu (from THE DICK TRACY SHOW), No Face (from SPIRITED AWAY), HAMPTON THE HAMSTER and HELLO KITTY are seen taking the SAT.  The teacher is an anthromorphic talking dog species common in Duckberg.
  • When a magic top hat lands on a pile of junk, it turns into Dumpy the Waste Man.  This hat is exactly the same hat that brought FROSTY THE SNOWMAN to life, which may then bring the entire Rank Bassman series of holiday specials into the Looniverse.
  • A rancour beast appears.  There is a version of STAR WARS in the Looniverse, where all the character exist in the present, on Earth and in space near Earth.
November 2005--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Little Orphan Hero"--
  • Captain Hero learns that his planet wasn't destroyed, but that his parents aborted him.  He ends up destroying the planet except for his parents who are on Earth at the time.
  • Batman and Robin appear in a flashback.  This is the essences of the deceased TVCU Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson.
  • Baby Kermit, Fonzie, Gonzo, and Scooter appear from MUPPET BABIES giving me an excuse to place the cartoon here and making my Muppet continuity a little cleaner now.
Late December 2005 to Early January 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Captain Hero's Marriage Pact"--
  • Hero and Wooldoor fight over the same girl, a super hero called Unusually Flexible Girl.
  • Meanwhile, Foxy tries to reunite the Foxxy Five.
January 2006-DRAWN TOGETHER--"Clum Babies"--
  • Yeah, Wooldoor's sperm is sentient and has the power to heal.
  • THE VEGGIETALES appear as extreme Christian zealots.
  • When the VeggieTales kill everyone in the house, this includes Farmer Al Falfa, though the clum babies revive all of them.
  • SYLVESTER THE CAT seeks out the clum babies to cure his broken leg.
  • Foxxy has a lightsaber which she uses as a sexual device.
January2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Ghostesses in the Slot Machine"--
  • It turns out the house is on an Indian burial ground, and the ghosts open up a casino.
  • Some of the mice who associate with SPEEDY GONZALES take a job shaving Toot's back.
  • Marge Simpson is playing the slots at the casino.  Marge has a gambling addiction as seen in THE SIMPSONS.  Meanwhile, Homer Simpson is at the strip club that Foxxy opens.
  • Ling-Ling is pulling a rickshaw with FAT ALBERT as his passenger.
  • Dr. Bruce Banner and his alter ego THE HULK are accountants.  This is not the TVCU or Marvel versions.  I believe that the Marvel cartoons of the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s are all in the Looniverse.
  • Captain Hero's team, the League of Heroes, appear.  One member is Ethan Hawkman.  I believe this was the Looniverse counterpart of Ethan Hawke who somehow merged with the essence of the TVCU Hawkman during the Crisis.
  • MARMADUKE is mentioned in a newspaper headline.
January 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Super Nanny"--
  • Captain Hero feels threatened by the Looniverse counterpart of SUPER NANNY.
  • The animated Godzilla appears, which places the original cartoon in the Looniverse.  Crazy Ivan said...
    The Loonieverse already has a version of Godzilla, as seen in the old Hanna-Barbara series (w/ Godzooky, the Jar Jar Binks of dai kaiju) and an episode of Drawn Together. In the movie Godzilla vs Hedorah, the Big G dances, flies, and generally acts like a dilweed in light of the awful majesty that IS the King of Monsters in every other G-flick (except maybe the one that's just a dream sequence in which a kid thinks Minya can talk and change his size). I'll point out that the movie ALSO has animated sequences, which is why I feel justified in thinking this is a live movie of the Looneyverse Godzilla, rather than, say, the lame-o-verse version of Godzilla.
January 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Terms of Endearment"--
  • Foxxy gets a brain tumor from all the times Captain Hero uses his X-ray vision on her.
  • MICKEY MOUSE is shown to be leading a crusade to eliminate all politically incorrect cartoon characters.
  • Foxxy is rounded up by Mickey's crusaders, along with SPEEDY GONZALES, the Eskimo from the LOONEY TUNES short "Frigid Hare", FAT ALBERT AND THE COSBY KIDS, AUNT JEMINA, Native Americans from LOONEY TUNES and PETER PAN, and Asians from LOONEY TUNES and World War II propaganda films.
February 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Captain Girl"--
  • Captain Hero takes on Wooldoor as a sidekick to defeat the Mad Libber.
  • Bikini Bottom, home of SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS, is seen, with the cast house being located on the island often seen in that show.
February 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"A Tale of Two Cows"--
  • It's discovered that there is a live action portion of the Looniverse, something I've already theorized in my Bugs Bunny blog.
  • The skeletons of Bart and Lisa SIMPSON are seen in a crawlspace in the house.  Obviously, they got better.
  • A live action cow gets mad cow disease and goes on a rampage through the country, including Springfield (drawn in SIMPSONS style and revealed to actually be in Conneticutt), SOUTH PARK Colorodo, BEDROCK South Dakota, and the future city of the JETSONS.
  • Toots attends a fat camp reunion with FAT ALBERT and LITTLE LOTTA.
  • LIVE ACTION SQUIRREL WITH BIG BALLS aka CAPE GROUND SQUIRREL is a semi-famous internet sensation that appears in the Live Action Forest.
February 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Xandir and Tim, Sitting in a Tree"--
  • Captain Hero's secret identity, Tim Tommerson, has a relationship with Xandir, which Captain Hero does not approve of.
  • PLUTO holds GOOFY hostage because he wants to wear pants.  This takes place in Toon Town, apparently not demolished for a freeway after the events of WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT?
  • There is a crime scene at THE FAMILY CIRCUS home.
  • ELMER FUDD and Tantor from DISNEY'S TARZAN appear in a street scene in Toon Town.
  • ARCHIE ANDREWS is seen at an arcade.  Archie comes from the TVCU.  The town of Riverdale and surrounding communities caught in a time anomoly.  Perhaps this is how residents manage to visit the Looniverse.
  • DILBERT is seen at the ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY office.  Also at the office are EWOKS.
  • Foxxy is in possession of a Starfleet tricorder.  It seems that the events of Star Trek seems to take place in the Looniverse in the 20th to 21st centuries and the Enterprise is always visiting Earth.
February 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"The Lemon-AIDS Walk"--
  • Captain Hero references that Popeye is his father.  Of course, we not that's not possible as his father was an alien scientist.  But we do know that Hero was abandoned at birth, and Popeye found an abandoned baby that became Swee'Pea, thus, Captain Hero was Swee'Pea.
  • The cast plays badminton against another team of celebrities, which are THOMAS THE TANK ENGINE, the creature from WHERE THE WILD THINGS ARE, STIMPY (of REN & STIMPY), THE HAMBURGER HELPER HELPING HAND, and old political cartoon, and a TRANSFORMER.  I place the TRANSFORMERS in the TVCU, but it could be the events of the 80s cartoon also happened in the Looniverse.
  • In a scene in a gym are THE THING, HE-MAN, PANTHRO from THUNDERCATS, SHE-RA, SPIDER-MAN, and THE JOLLY GREEN GIANT.  The Thing may be from the animated Marvel cartoons of the 1960s to 1980s, or the teenage Thing from FRED AND BARNEY MEET THE THING.  He-Man and She-Ra are from Eternia and Etheria, which are alternate realities to Earth according to DC COMICS.  But since He-Man and crew have interacted with Earth-1 and Earth-Prime, it's easy to imagine them visiting the Looniverse. 
  • Lois and Peter Griffin from FAMILY GUY appear walking down the street, more evidence that the BONGO UNIVERSE and LOONIVERSE are the same.
  • At the mall is the ACME Medical Supply Store.
  • Popeye dies of AIDS, but due to the rules of the reality, he appears again alive and well.
March 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"A Very Special Afterschool Special"--
  • Xandir is planning on coming out to his parents, and the cast does a role playing exercise to help him rehearse, which goes a little to far.
  • This is a very special episode.
  • Many Pokemon appear as Japanese businessmen.  (MY NEIGHBOR) TOTORO also appears.
  • Despite appearing in the credits, Meredith Baxter-Birney did not actually appear.
  • Spanky attends the opera from WHAT'S OPERA, DOC? Coming home, he is singing "Kill the Wabbit...'"
March 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Alzheimer's That Ends Well"--
  • Clara has an operation to have the squid monster removed from her vagina.
  • A group of angry seniors hire BOBA FETT to kill Toots.
  • Ty Pennington appears.
  • The Squid Monster marries Unusually Flexible Girl.
  • Both the squeaking shoes Toots wears and the fact that seniors can be killed by laughing to death implies a connection to WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT?
  • Apparently Toots was in the Vietnam Conflict.
March 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"The Drawn Together Clip Show"--
  • End of season live audience interview, as often seen on reality shows.
  • The MONKEY MAN appears.
October 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Freaks & Greeks"--
  • When Captain Hero learn there are Greeks next door, he wants to join the fraternity.  Only they aren't college kids.  They are a family from Greece.
  • Smurf village seems to be located in the cast house's front yard.  Since the real Smurf village seems to be a mideival forest, either that took place a long time ago, and these Smurfs are descendants, or else there are more than one colony of Smurfs.
  • Toot is marrying Ling-Ling's father.  At the wedding is (MY NEIGHBOR) TOTORO.
  • Goerge Takei, who may actually be Sulu in this reality, beams down, breaks up the wedding, then beams back up with Ling-Ling's father.
  • Oompa Loompas appear.  I believe the original film version, WILLIE WONKA AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY, may actually be in the Looniverse.
October 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Wooldoor Sockbat's Giggle-Wiggle Funny Tickle Non-Traditional Progressive Multicultural Roundtable!"--
  • Wooldoor finally gets a kids show.
  • The U.S. Senate seems to have a meeting place set up like the Galactic Senate from the STAR WARS PREQUEL TRILOGY.
  • Xandir reveals he's from the future, because video games are the future.
  • Wooldoor's show ends up making the country almost entirely gay within a five year period.  Thus the few remaining heterosexuals create a TERMINATOR to go back and kill Wooldoor.
  • Foxxy and Ling-Ling watch a porno with TRANSFORMERS.
  • Princess Clara's attorney is HARVEY BIRDMAN.
  • At the hearing to ban Wooldoor's show, the VEGGIETALES and DAVEY AND GOLIATH are attending.  Ned Flanders (neighbor of THE SIMPSONS) also appears. Tinky Winky of THE TELETUBBIES is also there.
  • STUART LITTLE is crushed in his little car by THE TERMINATOR and Captain Hero.
  • Senator Sith Lord (R-Michigan) is clearly Palpatine.
  • Senator Ted Kennedy is also present.
October 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Spelling Applebee's"--
  • Foxxy's dark spelling bee past comes back to haunt her.
  • The cast has to compete against the PEANUTS gang in a spelling bee.
  • Hadji, friend of JOHNNY QUEST, is a spelling bee champ and has taken to dressing like Mr. T.  Note that Hadji existed in the TVCU where his life took a completely different route than his Looniverse counterpart.
  • Keith Franklin appears in a scene where he is a waiter who ends up making out with Captain Hero.  This is the Looniverse counterpart of an Earth-Prime Comedy Central fan who won a contest to be drawn into the show.
October 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Unrestrainable Trainable"--
  • This episode reveals that Captain Hero has a sister.
  • Her name is Captain She-Ro.
  • She survived the planet's destruction and came to Earth.
  • He donated sperm.
  • She went to a sperm bank.
  • She had his child.
  • That child is a giant mentally challenged boy.
  • The Nestle Quick Rabbit is part of an orgy with Foxxy, Spanky, and Toots.  He was only there because he though Foxxy's breasts could produce chocolate milk.
  • Bill Cosby appears weeping over the loss of JELL-O PUDDING.
  • JESUS appears.  This is the Looniverse Jesus.
  • The STAR TREK II ear worms appear, being kept ina container labeled "Star Trek II ear worms".
November 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"N.R.A. Y RAY"--
  • Foxxy's grandson hides out at the house.
  • It turns out that Captain Hero had gone back in time and killed Bambi's mother.  Bambi convinces Hero that guns are bad. Hero rounds up all the weapons on Earth and flushes them down a toilet, at which the deer reveal they have weapons and seek revenge on humanity.
  • Hero also killed JOE CAMEL on his hunting trip.
  • Later, in the battle against Bambi's army, Hero shoots RUDOLPH THE RED-NOSED REINDEER.  (Sorry, Jessica. But refer to my rules on death in the Looniverse.)
  • Captain Hero uses a Needler gun from HALO.
  • Hero also shoots an AT-AT from EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.
November 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Mexican't Buy Me Love"--
  • Toots and Ling-Ling go to Mexico on vacation.
  • Mexico is a monarchy in the Looniverse. Their castle is a Home Depot.  Mexico's Mount Rushmore counterpart has the faces of Speedy Gonzales, the TACO BELL dog, Jose Leno (Mexican late night talk show host), and a donkey.
  • Spanky is aware that he is voiced by Adam Carolla.
September 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Lost in Parking Space"--
  • When the gang go the mall without Clara, she thinks the Rapture has come and she was left behind. She abandons her Christian beliefs to follow Satan.  Meanwhile, the gang get their car pinned in the mall parking lot, so they can't open the doors and are all stuck. Foxxy discovers at the mall that the Hot Topic abducts cartoon characters for customers to come and torture.
  • In one of the reality show confessionals, Hero chops off his own head to demonstrate that Toons can't really die.
  • Seen at the mall parking lot are SPEED RACER in the Mach-5, HE-MAN on his Battle Cat, and WONDER WOMAN in her invisible jet.
  • Kirk Cameron's Looniverse counterpart appears.
  • Mufasa THE LION KING's ghost appears to inspire Xandir.
  • Wooldoor has a lightsaber.
  • (FINDING) NEMO and other fish from that film are in a tank that is drank by Toots.  (I still believe Finding Nemo is in the TVCU.  This must be a counterpart.)
  • Among those tortured at Hot Topic are Fred Flintstone, Wish Bear (of the CARE BEARS), DARIA, DAVEY AND GOLIATH, Homer Simpson, POPEYE and Scrappy-Doo (originally from the TVCU).
  • It's revealed that if you give up on imagination, "the Nothing" will come, bringing in THE NEVERENDING STORY.  Probably only the fantasy parts are in the Looniverse with the boy being from Earth-Prime or the TVCU.
October 2007--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Charlotte's Web of Lies"--
  • Spanky gets a spider stalker, who seems to be Charlotte of CHARLOTTE'S WEB, but I doubt it.
  • Spanky hires Boba Fett to exterminate his stalker.
  • Ling-Ling attends anger management with the HULK, Skeletor (enemy of HE-MAN), YOSEMITE SAM, and MARVIN THE MARTIAN.
  • The animated version of King Kong appears playing in a Broadway musical version of Drawn Together.
  • Keith Franklin appears again, still a waiter.
  • In flashback, Ling-Ling battles another Pokemon.
October 2007--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Breakfast Food Killer"--
  • Wooldoor is hired to be a breakfast cereal mascot.
  • Appearing to audition as a mascot are the Looniverse counterpart of Andrew Koenig, a TRANSFORMER, Bender (from FUTURAMA, somehow brought through time and from the TVCU), Harley Quinn (apparently the essence of the golden age TVCU version), MICKEY MOUSE, HE-MAN, Baba Looey (sidekick of QUICK DRAW MCGRAW), and Speedy Gonzales.
  • It's revealed that Franken Berry is really named FRANKENSTEIN, but changed it to not be labeled as a Jew when he went Hollywood.
November 2007--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Nipple Ring-Ring Goes to Foster Care"--
  • Child services takes Ling-Ling away and places him in the care of UNCLE BEN, who turns out to be Foxxy's father.
  • Odie (from GARFIELD) appears in one of the scenes in the house.
  • Foxxy visits several foster homes looking for Ling-Ling.  One is the home of LITTLE ORPHAN ANNIE and Daddy Warbucks.  This Annie is not the TVCU version.  
  • Another foster parent she visits is Megatron (leader of the Decepticons.)
  • The third home is actually a blank slate, where Foxxy is tormented by the animator, who turns out to be BUGS BUNNY.
  • Aunt Jemima's signature is seen on an award that Uncle Ben has in his closet.
  • At a diner is BOY GEORGE and Devo in 1980s Small Town.
November 2007--DRAWN TOGETHER--"Toot Goes Bollywood"--
  • Toot is mistaken for a cow in India and gets worshiped as a god.
  • Foxxy has sex with the Looniverse counterparts of Denzel Washington, Magic Johnson, Forest Whitaker, Al Roker, SCOOBY-DOO, and MARVIN THE MARTIAN.
  • Foxxy believes that she was raped by FAT ALBERT AND THE COSBY KIDS, but these were false memories implanted by Wooldoor, her therapist, because apparently that's what therapists do.
  • Replacing Bill Cosby at the junkyard is Otis Day (from Animal House, and if I can't find anything to connect Animal House to the TVCU, then Animal House will end up in the Looniverse.)
  • COLONEL SANDERS appears.
November 2007--DRAWN TOGETHER--"American Idol Parody Clip Show"--
  • Another clip show before a live studio audience, this time with a musical competition thrown in.
  • For the first time, a house member is evicted. Munchkin Mouse is evicted after losing the singing contest.
  • At the end, the show seems to have been cancelled.
  • MY NEIGHBOR TOTORO appears yet again.
  • The housemates have been living in the house for two and a half years.  They haven't been aware the show was cancelled.  The Jew Producer has been continuing a charade.  It turns out there is a conspiracy and the cast are led to believe that they were created for the show and their memories before the show were implanted and all of their people they've met from their lives before the show were also created for the show.  Clara and friends go to DISNEYLAND, her home, to find another copy of her and a father who thinks Clara is fake.  It's my belief that in fact the cast aren't fake, but they are led to believe so.  The network head has an agenda to destroy the cast, and we know that MICKEY MOUSE also has an agenda against the cast, and could have created the doubles of Clara and her father.
  • Meanwhile, in an attempt to get back on the air, the cast realize their show needs a point, and goes to seek one out.
  • While hiding from the network's assassin, Toot goes back in time to Bedrock, where she has an affair with BARNEY RUBBLE and becomes the mother of BAMM-BAMM.
  • While on the road, the cast runs over the ROAD RUNNER.  Seeing he no longer has meaning in his life, WILE E. COYOTE takes his life.
  • Papa Smurf has died.  The others are at his funeral.  This implies that the Smurfs do indeed live now in the present in Toon Town.  Perhaps they migrated long ago from mideivel France.
  • Molly, a dead corpse that Captain Hero is dating, is shown to have been sexually involved with Aquaman, Plastic Man, Green Lantern, Doctor Manhatten (!!!), the Wonder Twins, Gleek, He-Man, Orko, Battle Cat, Batman, and Robin.  So it seems that the heroes from Watchmen are in the Looniverse, but obviously the events of Watchmen didn't happen.
  • Tinkerbell, the rhino guards from DISNEY'S ROBIN HOOD, a doorknob like the type in DISNEY'S WONDERLAND, and the Atlantis and Sebastian from LITTLE MERMAID are seen as Disneyland.
  • The show that replaces DRAWN TOGETHER is SUCK MY TAINT.  The Suck My Taint Girl seems to be from South Park.  She has a picture of Eric Cartman's cat in her dressing room.
  • The cast travels to MAKE A POINT LAND, which may be yet another strange part of the overall Looniverse.


DRAWN TOGETHER BABIES--One episode parodies shows like MUPPET BABIES, but the show contradicts the canon of the remainder of the series.  This reality has a version of FLIPPER.

Sunday, November 13, 2011

Pass the Pizza: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the TVCU


I have a policy.  I may retcon my posts over and over, but if another member of the TVCU Crew posts something, it's canon, and I won't mess with it.  

And thus, here is an example.  When the Horror Crossover Encyclopedia was published, I started incorporating the Horror Universe into the Television Crossover Universe.  For the most part, the TVCU and Horror Universe are one and the same.  For the most part...

They must, though, not truly be the same, but slightly divergent timelines.  This wonderful post by James Bojaciuk, so wonderful it's our # 5 all-time most viewed post, establishes the 1980s animated Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as being the TVCU version of the Turtles, while all other versions exist in the Television Crossover Multiverse.

Meanwhile, because the Horror Crossover Encyclopedia uses a different start point and different methodology for connecting, in the Horror Universe, the Turtles of the IDW series that connects to Conspiracy are the version for that timeline, while all other versions of the Turtles exists within the larger Horror Multiverse.  Thus, the Horror Multiverse and Television Crossover Multiverse must be one and the same, while the TVCU and Horror Universe are alternate realities within that multiverse.  Very similar in most ways, but allowing for differences when necessary, such as in the case of the Turtles.  

For the record, though I haven't gotten to the Turtles of the Cartoon Multiverse yet, it's likely that will add another dynamic to the TVCM concept, but again, that will not interfere internally with this post.


A Crisis Crossover

Deticated to Tyler, without whom I never would have discovered Turtles Forever or found the interest to write this blog. Thanks for the adventures, my friend.

Next time you’re in New York stuffing your face in a dive pizzeria, look around. If you’re lucky, you might spot four men in trenchcoats eating their way through a stack of dough, meat, and cheese higher than your head. The owner will be in unusually good spirits over the influx of money; the waiter will be in unusually good spirits over the lovely redhead sitting with the men in trenchcoats; the redhead’s husband will be dying to bash in the waiter’s head with a baseball bat. And you, dear reader, will be watching six living legends who have saved the world (and all the pizzerias therein) more times than they can count on their fingers.

Yeah, I’m talking about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I’m sorry.

The recent animated film Turtles Forever established that all of the different TMNT universes are separate universes. Because of that, most of the entries on the list involve the 1987 cartoon Turtles, because most of their crossovers directly link them to the TVCU. There are five exceptions. All of the Mirage Turtle comics that I include here featured crossovers I could not pass up, or had so many crossovers in them that I had to conclude it was in fact a story of the TVCU Turtles. The other major exception are the two episodes of Power Rangers in Space where the live-action television Turtles met the Power Rangers. That Turtles series is a jerk, as it follows up on plot points from both the 1987 cartoon and the movie series, all without making overmuch sense as to how it could possibly be a continuation of two very different sagas. Thus I include the crossover, but reject the rest of the series—especially the lady turtle.

Enough methodology! Let’s get to the fun stuff!

1963—Daredevil #1 (flashbacks only—the rest of the issue occurs later); Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 (flashbacks only—the rest of the issue takes place in the “Turtles Prime” universe, see the entry for Turtles Forever for more information)
During a traffic accident, young Matt Murdock is struck in the face by a radioactive canister. Of course, he was gifted with radar sight and would go on to become the hero Daredevil. As far as Marvel Comics is concerned, that single event was the end of the radioactive canister; but in reality, it fell through a grate and shattered, the ooze spilling over four baby turtles abandoned there by a previous owner.

The history if Daredevil is not a clear-cut as in the Marvel Universe. After reading about Matt Murdock’s accident in the newspaper, Stan Lee, ever the show-man, decided to base his newest hero on the child’s accident for publicity; he would allow young Murdock “assist” Jack Kirby in designing his costume, and the character would be named after him. The sales plan was a success; to further the success, Marvel Comics granted young Murdock a small scholarship to pay his way into college.

Decades later, a man in a Daredevil costume would strike criminals down in the dead of night. No one suspected that this Daredevil was actually the blind lawyer the character had been based on many years before.

The four young Turtles were collected by a rat that was once a man, and taken to another time and another place.

Image from Daredevil #1

Images from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1

Another Time and Another Place—World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade and the Wrath of the Lynch King
Apparently if the player controlled character wonders down into the sewers of Dalaran, one may see a large level 80 rat teaching four level 1 turtles. Obviously, this is Master Splinter is teaching the young Leonardo, Raphael, Donatello, and Michelangelo in the way of the Ninja.

At present it is unknown how the Turtles and their Master arrived in this world; but whatever the means, it seems Splinter selected this place as a safe haven from the dangers of the TVCU sewers.

1986—Somewhere in this time period the Turtles come back to the TVCU meet April O’Neil, and set up shop in their war against Shredder and the Foot Clan.

1896—Quest for Lost Dreams #1
"After a pair of movers lose their van full of priceless historical and literary artifacts, their boss decides to phone up a slew of heroes to retrieve the missing antiques. Matt Sinkage (of “Silent Invasion”) recovers the portrait of Dorian Gray, Eb’nn (of “Eb’nn”) recovers the Maltese Falcon, Reacto Man (of “Reacto Man”) recovers H.G. Wells’s time machine, J. B. Space (of “Tales from the Aniverse”) recovers the Pied Piper of Hamelin’s pipe, Wordsmith (of “Wordsmith”) recovers The Shadow’s ring, the adventurers from “The Realm” recover Dorothy’s ruby slippers, the Trollords (of “The Trollords”) recover Charon’s ore from the River Styx, and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles [recover Excalibur]"--quote from TNMT Entity

The TMNT, Wordsmith, Reacto Man, and Silent Invasion stories all fit into the TVCU perfectly (in fact, the Wordsmith story does not involve the Wordsmith at all, and is instead a straight-up crossover between The Shadow and the Phantom Detective). The other stories take place in parallel dimensions to the TVCU, yet still involve the real artifacts.

The two movers are of special note, as one is extremely thin, one is extremely fat, and neither are extremely bright. These two bumblers show every sign of being the Immortal Bumblers doing what they do best.

1987—“The Incredible Shrinking Turtles”; “It Came from Beneath the Sewers”; “The Mean Machines”; “Curse of the Evil Eye”
In this four part storyline the Turtles and Shredder battle over fragments of the Eye of Sarnoth, an ancient crystal of unimaginable power; Shredder wishes to use the fragments to open a portal into Dimension X. At the end of this story, the shards fall into other hands, leaving both the Foot Clan and the Turtles without any net gain to all of this foot work.

In H.P. Lovecraft’s “The Doom that Came to Sarnath”—which is one letter away from the crystal named here—the men of Sarnath stole an idol dedicated to the Great Old Ones. This brought great destruction upon all of them. It seems highly probable that the Eye of Sarnoth is a crystal eye plucked from the Idol of Sarnath.

1987—“The Case of the Killer Pizzas”
Shredder places eggs from a weird alien creature in pizza meatballs (who eats meatballs on a pizza?). These “meatballs” hatch inside the eaters, exploding from their chests. These creatures are, of course, xenomorphs from the Aliens film series. The Turtles take the xenomorphs down—saving the city from Shredder’s bizarre plan.

1988-- "The Maltese Hamster"
Gangsters are pouring over the city in an effort to find the Maltese Hamster, a fabulous statuette made during the crusades. Donatello and April play detective, tracking the statue down and keeping it from the hands of both the mob and Shredder.

We may assume that the Maltese Hamster was actually a cover-name for the Maltese Falcon—and that the name of the statuette was changed to protect the producers of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles from legal action by the Samuel Spade Foundation.

1988—Michaelangelo #1—“A Christmas Carol”; Jim Lawson
Raphael, annoyed by Christmas cheer, runs off into the night to be alone and cranky; like so many annoyed people on Christmas day, his plans to be alone and cranky are utterly ruined by three ghosts trying to show him the error of his ways. I hardly need to make note that over the course of the story Ralph endures reruns of his childhood, sees his family good-naturedly making fun of him when he’s not around, and sees an insane older version of himself hiding in a swamp.

Okay, Scrooge didn’t see that last one.

Eventually Ralph learns the errors of his way, just like everyone else pestered by the Ghosts of Christmas, and wishes his family a “Merry Christmas!”

1989—“Howard and Nester: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles”—Nintendo Power, July/August 1989 issue
After getting off at the very wrong bus stop, Nester is rescued from a assured mugging by April O’Neil. She takes him back to her apartment, where he fails to help the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles beat their own video game.

Nester shared the comic strip Howard and Nester with his adult friend Howard Philips, who was a ultra-genius employee of the Nintendo Corporation. Nester, of course, hated him. Few of their adventures have any kind of crossover; fewer even mention the game in any kind of metafictional commentary (such as in this strip). The other crossovers found in Howard and Nester send our heroes up against Maniac Mansion (which is already in through a self-contained Indiana Jones crossover), Golgo 13, and, possibly, the Legend of Zelda (Nester finds a history of Link’s life and adventures in the library).

Images courtesy of the Howard and Nester Comics Archive.

1989—“Save Our Ship” & “Shell Shocked”—Power Rangers in Space
The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles team-up with the Power Rangers and go to Outer Space. It needs to be pointed out that the Power Rangers of the TVCU are not exactly the Power Rangers seen on television. In the TVCU, as established by Atomic Robo and the Revenge of the Vampire Dimension #2 and Gen 13 #57-59, the Power Rangers are a group of anti-Kaiju (giant monster) warriors working for the Japanese government. Oddly enough, most of them are teenagers. During the events of the story, the Turtles and the Power Rangers travel to space and fight Space-Kaiju.

It must be noted that the presence of a female turtle is entirely, entirely, fictional.

1989—Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Meets Archie
This one is only slightly more insane than Archie Meets the Punisher. Here, the Ninja Turtles are brought back to earth from a meeting with aliens to score some pizza—of course they land in Riverdale. And this being an Archie crossover, Josie and the Pussycats are stopping there on their tour.

Shortly after the turtles arrive in town, Veronica is kidnapped by kidnappers (who else?), and Archie, Betty, Jughead, and the Turtles team up to save her!

NOTE: I place these two stories together because the Power Rangers in Space episodes send the TMNT to outer space, where the Archie comic begins with the Turtles being unceremoniously dropped, by aliens, on the outskirts of Riverdale. The tales fit together like a jigsaw puzzle.

1989—“Plan Six from Outer Space”
Splinter is kidnaped and replaced by a robotic transforming alien. The robot self-identifies as a “Pretendicon.” A version of the Transformers do exist in the TVCU, so it seems likely that this “Pretendicon” was a Decepticon. What a Decepticon would have to gain from impersonating Splinter is yet to be determined.

1989--"Usagi Yojimbo"
The famous samurai of the looniverse, Usagi Yojimbo, is lost on the TVCU earth. Eventually he finds he way back home. Usagi Yojimbo is the long running comic creation of Stan Sakai.

Usagi Yojimbo would encounter the TMNT of at least three worlds throughout his lifetime. He most often encountered the Turtles from the place called “Turtleverse Prime.”

1989--"Case of the Hot Kimono"
Someone is stealing all the kimonos in the city. After Master Splinter's favorite kimono is stolen, April's famous detective aunt, Agatha Marbles, helps the Turtles retrieve it.

Agatha Marbles is obviously Agatha Christie’s elderly sleuth Miss Marple. We have two bits of evidence strengthening the connection between Marbles and Marple: in the already-TVCU murder mystery parody Murder by Death, Miss Marple is called Miss Marbles; in the Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventures episode “The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Phone Booth” Bill and Ted briefly consider consulting a detective their Circuts of Time Phone Book calls Miss Marbles, who is obviously Miss Marple.

It seems that Miss Marple lived (lives?) an ungodly long time. And so, after a time when it became clear she was not going to die, Jane Marple faked her death and took up the absurd name Agatha Marbles.

1991—Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #43—“The Hall of Lost Legends”; Paul Jenkins and A.C. Farley
While training, the Turtles are kidnapped across dimensions and taken to the Hall of Lost Legends. There, they do battle with Loki, who had imprisoned all of the other legends, and his honor guard of mythological creatures: Fideal, Cerberus, Grendel and Mantichora. Grendel is from the Anglo-Saxon poem Beowulf, and thus strengthens the connection between Beowulf and the TVCU.

It is possible that this place filled with gods either forgotten or no longer worshiped is the same hall of dead gods visited by Shadow in Neil Gaiman’s American Gods.

1991—“Nightmare in the Lair”
Donatello’s invention that allows people to access their dreams is hijacked by Freddy Kruger, who tries to kill the slumbering Michelangelo and Leonardo. For a full timeline of the life of Freddy Kruger, minus this newly discovered tidbit, see Robert’s excellent and comprehensive Freddy Kruger timeline.

1991--"Sleuth on the Loose"
Agatha Marbles (Miss Marple) returns to help the Turtles stop a madman from building a doomsday device.

1991--"Shredder's New Sword”
From Wikipedia: “The Shredder took possession of the mythic sword, Excalibur, and proclaimed himself "King Shredder." The Turtles, along with Merlin, must take it from him or else the Medieval Times will merge with the modern world.”

1991—"Elementary, My Dear Turtle"
“After experiencing a time-slip with an atomic clock, the Turtles find themselves in 1890, where they meet the famous detective Sherlock Holmes & his assistant, Dr. Watson, hot on the trail of Professor Moriarty, who has stolen the atomic clock with intentions to rule the future.The Turtles must retrieve the atomic clock before Moriarty uses it to change history & proclaim himself Emperor of the World.”

1994—Sonic #10; Angelo Decesare, Dave Manak, Art Mawhinney
Whilst running through a sewer, Sonic passes the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. As Robert previously included Sonic because of a Green Hornet crossover, I feel justified for including this little reference.

1994—“Черепашки-ниндзя и Бэтмэн” (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Batman)
Batman III works with the Turtles to fight the Foot Clan, presumably. I know nothing about this Russian comic other than the fact that this is a team-up between Batman and TNMT.

1995—“Бэтмэн против Двудушника” (Batman vs. Dvudushnika)
Batman III once more teams up with the TMNT.

2008—“Tesladyne: On the Other Side of Tomorrow: Two Days with the Men, Women, and Robot who Make Our Future”—a backup bonus tale found in Atomic Robo Volume Three: Atomic Robo and the Shadow from Beyond Time; Dalton Nichols*, Brian Clevinger, and Scott Wegener

During his interview with Dalton Nichols, Atomic Robo displays all of the trophies in his office. Among these trophies is the back-shell of a turtle whereupon two katana swords are crossed—an item which looks shockingly like . It is unknown how

*The story is credited to Dalton Nichols. But as Nichols is also a character in the story, it seems more likely that he is the fictional invention of Clevinger and Wegener

2008-1985—Turtles Forever (TV movie)

Yes, you read that right; this story begins in 2008 and moves backward chronologically until it intersects the Crisis on Infinite Earths. There are three entirely separate groups of Turtles present in this movie, so for the sake of clarity we shall refer to them as the TVCU Turtles, the Reboot Turtles, and the Prime Turtles (though as far as the omniverse cosmology goes, that term is doubtful).

Somehow, the TVCU Turtles along with their Shredder and Krang the Brain have ended up in the darker and grittier Reboot Turtles universe—where all of the citizens have no clue what to make of their lighter-hearted pizza-loving alternates. As events unfold, the TVCU Shredder awakens a frozen “squid thing” that happens to be his counterpart in the Reboot Universe. The “squid thing” is Ch'rell, an immortal from an alien race; Ch’rell then has the inspiration to destroy all of the universes so that he can finally find rest.

He begins eliminating all of the universes containing Ninja Turtles, until only one remains (however, oddly enough, no damage is ever seen to be done to the homeworld of the TVCU Turtles). All of the destroyed universes are overtaken by red skies, before finally being destroyed by an unstoppable wall of anti-matter. All the assembled Turtles stop Ch’rell’s plot, and the universes return to their proper places.

It seems highly likely that Turtles Forever is an alternate look at the events of The Crisis on Infinite Earths, showing another side of the plan to destroy all universes. As will be demonstrated in a future blog, Yog Sothoth was the being ultimately behind the Crisis plan. From Ch’rell’s actions in this movie, so far out of line from his normal operations, it seems that he was possessed by Yog Sothoth at some point shortly after his revival by the TVCU Shredder.

NOTE: Some TMNT scholars believe this film takes place between seasons three and four of the 1987 cartoon series, which would place this films events (for the TVCU Turtles at least) in 1990. Either date works for the TVCU, though I’ve chosen the later date so as to provide a bit more evidence that Leonardo did not die at Atomic Robo’s hands.

2011—“Rexeriffic in: The Advenure of Self-Publishing Picket Line”; Breena Wiederhoeft
Rex, a honest businessman from Wiederhoeft’s graphic novel Picket Line, explores the sewers to find the Ninja Turtles; upon meeting them, everyone decides to go out for pizza.

You can visit Wiederhoeft’s website, and buy her book, HERE.

Cowabunga, dudes!


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