OK, so this will be my position on muppets.
For now, I'll say that if you don't like muppets in your shared crossover reality, just skip this and the Muppet Show blog. Simple as that. You can certainly (I hope) enjoy the bulk of the work that I and my colleagues have done while skipping over these two blogs. But whether you like it or not, in the Television Crossover Universe, MY reality, they are here to stay.
On Muppet Monsters, Crazy Ivan had this to say a while back, which I have come to agree with: While I respect the work you did on this, I have to question the decision to ignore the existence of Muppets as a seperate species / race / kingdom / etc. My own research into this fringe element of the Crossover Universe was made more palatable by conflating the Muppets of Sesame Street with the Monsters of (Pixar's) Monsters, Inc. If an enclave of monsters had learned early on that making children laugh would garner more energy for Monstropolis than making them scream, they might not have been well-regarded in the screamcentric society the lived in, and could have been summarily banished to Earth. I believe ELMO'S ADVENTURES IN GROUCHLAND supports such a theory, as does the large number of monsters populating Sesame Street. It also aloows the origin of the Smile Time puppet demons to be the same as the muppets, though they obviously did not come to Earth to make children laugh.
Yes, in this blog, I'm going to show how Sesame Street fits into the TV Crossover Universe. First, let me explain my take on Muppets. When we see muppets on TV, we are actually seeing the being the muppet represents, not a puppet. So if it's a big bird, it's a big bird. If it's a frog, it's a frog. They just happen to talk and are anthropomorphic.
This is my take on cartoons and CGI as well. If there is a CGI dragon, we're not seeing something computer generated. It's a real dragon. And if we are seeing, for example, Daffy Duck in Drew Carey's office, he's not seeing a two dimensional drawing, but a talking humanoid duck.
So let's talk about the nature of Sesame Street, and then I'll get to my crossover chronology.
Sesame Street is a street in New York City. But it exists within a magical realm. You can't just go there. It's not on any map. To get there, the portal to the street has to be open. However, how and when this portal opens is kind of a mystery. But it seems to do so one hour per day, weekdays only.
On Sesame Street, normal humans live with anthropomorphic talking animals and monsters. A large part of their day revolves around discussing the alphabet, numbers, and things like cooperation.
Often people from outside come to visit. The magic of this street immediately erases the surprise that should be exhibited by these outsiders. And when these outsiders leave, they don't forget their experience, but they choose not to discuss it, because who would believe it.
Kermit the Frog worked as a reporter for Sesame Street News before making it big as the host of the Muppet Show. Muppets are the anthropomorphic talking animals, monsters, and immortal (though slightly insane) humans that make up the large part of Sesame Street. However, the Muppets of the Muppet Show came from all across America, found each other, and chose to go into show business.
But how can we accept that there is famous Muppets? Most people who watch the show think it's all special effects. Those who actually encounter the Muppets in person tend to be in denial or shock, and block out the memories afterwards.
So this blog is not about the Muppets. I will cover the Muppet Show in another blog. Today's blog is about Sesame Street, and is brought to you today by the letter S and the number 8.
One last thing. I'm only going to discuss crossovers with other fictional characters. Many real life celebrities appear on Sesame Street. But when celebrities appear as themselves on fictional shows, then they are playing fictional versions of themselves. But since all real people tend to exist in a multitude of alternate realities, I can't include them as crossovers that connect shows and place them in the same reality.
Another final note, unlike other shows, where the concept is that the events happened and were later turned into a TV show, Sesame Street is brought to us live, thus the dates of episodes are the dates they happened.
Sweepin' the clouds away
On my way to where the air is sweet
Can you tell me how to get,
How to get to Sesame Street
Come and play
Friendly neighbors there
That's where we meet
Can you tell me how to get
How to get to Sesame Street
It's a magic carpet ride
Every door will open wide
To Happy people like you--
Happy people like
What a beautiful
Sweepin' the clouds away
On my way to where the air is sweet
Can you tell me how to get,
How to get to Sesame street...
How to get to Sesame Street
How to get to...
Medieval Times--LOST SOULS--This video game features Discordians who count in the manner of the Count from Sesame Street. It's very well established that vampires of folk lore had some OCD issues. Legends stated that if you drop a bunch of beads a vampire must stop and count each and every one before he could pursue you. Additionally, he had to stop and tie shoe laces if he found any untied shoes. It's been postulated before that the Count (Count Von Count) may have been a Dracula soul clone that had OCD. Crossovers uses the soul clone theory, so it exists in the TVCU. Sadly, I can't send you to Chuck Loridan's MONSTAAH website since it no longer exists. (Well, the domain name still exists, but now it belongs to a Japanese diaper bag business.) But basically, Dracula would turn some vampires into soul clones. These soul clones, depending on the level of their own willpower, would believe they were Dracula and would follow the will of Dracula while he slept. Should Chuck ever repost his Children of the Night website, I will post the link here. All of the shows and movies he places on his site are in the TVCU.
12TH Century--SESAME STREET--Another Robin Hood poser was an ancestor of Ernie from SESAME STREET.
1338--SESAME STREET--"Snow White's Meltdown"--TELEVISION CROSSOVER UNIVERSE--The Seven Dwarfs weren't the first ones she encountered. Watch it here.
16th Century--HAMLET--The Mel Gibson version, yes, is the official version in the TVCU because Mel Gibson played the same role again on Sesame Street.
1954--THE MUPPET MOVIE--Though it came out in 1979, it takes place before Kermit got famous. Kermit first started appearing on talk shows in 1955. This movie shows how he got from the swamps to Hollywood, thus it should be placed here. During their trip to Hollywood, Kermit and Fozzie stop offer Big Bird a ride. He declines, saying he's on his way to New York, to break into public broadcasting. This shows us that Big Bird was not originally from Sesame Street. This explains why Little Bird is the only similar type of his species to live there (and Little bird didn't arrive until the 1970s.) Big Bird, arriving in New York, must have found he wasn't accepted by New Yorkers, until he found Sesame Street. Once Big Bird found his home, he made it his mission to tell others how to get to Sesame Street. Clearly, it was Big Bird who continued to advocate for the next 15 years until finally PBS agreed to do a live daily educational reality program on Sesame Street. Ivan doesn't feel this movie should be in, as the Muppets are watching this movie and they made it. But I believe they mad a movie based upon their origin. After all, Howard Stern played himself in his life story. (Did I just compare Kermit to Howard?)
1969--SESAME STREET PITCH REEL--This is kind of the pilot for that reality show called Sesame Street. Kermit hosted the Sesame Street News. I suppose he was to Sesame Street what Chevy Chase was to SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE. Well, except that Kermit was a serious news man.
July 1969--SESAME STREET--"Pilot"--Batman II (Dick Grayson) appears. Later, other characters like Superman (Hugo Danner), Jughead Jones, and Beetle Bailey would also appear.
November 10, 1969 to Present--SESAME STREET--The complete run of Sesame Street. In 1969, the Public Broadcasting System in New York starting bringing cameras into the hidden Sesame Street. Big Bird has a teddy bear named Radar. Considering that Walter "Radar" O'Reilly slept with a teddy bear even as an adult, one wonders if he is the one who gave Bird his bear.
November 10, 1969 to Present--REALITY TV--Previously, I listed out every appearance of a Sesame Street character on a talk show, game show, cooking show, ect. It was long and redundant. I've decided to condense it. Note that reality shows for the most part are the real world, but when Matt Lauer treats Elmo like he's real, he's obviously not himself, but playing a fictional version of himself that exists in the world of Sesame Street. Thus, only episodes where reality shows interact with fictional characters as real people are included for crossover purposes, and it does not bring the entirety of the show into the TVCU. So, Sesame Street character have appeared in (in alphabetical order) Being Green, BOB HOPE ON THE ROAD TO CHINA, A Capitol Fourth, Coming Home: Military Families Cope with Change, Conan, DEAL OR NO DEAL, Dinner: Impossible, THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW, EMERIL LIVE, EVENING AT THE POPS, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, Families Stand Together: Feeling Secure in Tough Times, THE FRUGAL GOURMET, Getaway, HOLLYWOOD SQUARES, JEOPARDY, JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE, Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, MACY'S THANKSGIVING DAY PARADE, MARTHA, MARTHA STEWART LIVING, NAACP Image Awards, NIGHT OF 100 STARS II, PAULA'S PARTY, Postcards, The Rosie O'Donnell Show, Rove Live, DAYTIME EMMY AWARDS, Sunrise, THE TODAY SHOW, The Tony Danza Show, Top Chef, The Wendy Williams Show, WHAT'S MY LINE?, When Parents Are Deployed
1970--THE FLIP WILSON SHOW--Though most of this show occurs in Skitlandia, the appearance of Big Bird occurs in the TVCU.
1971--THE MUPPETS TAKE MANHATTEN--This movie seems to be another step in the story of how the Muppets got famous. I'm giving a five year period between when the Muppets were successful on Broadway and the time they got their variety show. Kermit apparently marries Miss Piggy at the end with residents from SESAME STREET and FRAGGLE ROCK in attendance. Sesame Street was very successful by this point, and Kermit was still a good friend of them, and still working for the Sesame Street News. The Muppets and Sesame Street residents would interact with folks from FRAGGLE ROCK over. Uncle Travelling Matt is the only Fraggle to appear here, which fits since most Fraggles probably aren't born yet. This film also features the MUPPET BABIES. This would seem to contradict the Muppet Movie, but since the Muppet Babies were literally babies still, if they were separated and spread across the country after, they probably would not remember each other as adults. I know I don't know any of the children I was friends with when I was ages 0 - 5.
1972--THE ELECTRIC COMPANY--This unusual utility company is visited by Big Bird.
1973 to Present--SASAMSTRABE--German version of Sesame Street that Kermit occasionally guests on.
1974--OUT TO LUNCH--ABC NEWS is taken over by the casts of SESAME STREET and THE ELECTRIC COMPANY. Interestingly, that means that the canon of the TVCU SPIDER-MAN also includes his appearances on THE ELECTRIC COMPANY.
1974 to present--SESAME STREET SPECIALS--There have been numerous Sesame Street specials and videos and previously I went insane trying to list them all, but have decided that leads to madness. Just know there are many, and often with celebrities, playing fictional versions of themselves. Only Sesame Street episodes, specials, and videos with crossover significance will be listed from here on out.
1974--THE MUPPETS VALENTINE SHOW--Includes an appearance from Ernie.
1975--THE ELECTRIC COMPANY--Another visit from Sesame Street residents.
1976--THE MUPPET SHOW--"Sex and Violence"--The pilot for the Muppet Show features a guest appearance from Bert. Bert makes another appearance on the show this year.
September 5, 1976 to June 8, 1981--THE MUPPET SHOW--Sesame Street News television correspondent Kermit the Frog becomes the host of a variety show called the Muppet Show.
1978--NBC SALUTES THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF DISNEY--Big Bird appears to pay tribute.
1978--THE MUPPET SHOW--Big Bird makes an appearance.
February 1980--SESAME STREET--The droids make their way to SESAME STREET, apparently not having returned after crashing on Earth a month ago.
1981--MISTER ROGERS' NEIGHBORHOOD--Big Bird goes to another couple of neighborhoods: that of Mister Rogers, and the other the Neighborhood of Make Believe.
1982--IFTAH YA SIMSIM--This is a Lebanese show, but that doesn't mean "Death to America." This is a Lebanese version of Sesame Street, and Kermit, being a huge star, shows up to help boost the ratings.
1985--SESAME STREET PRESENTS FOLLOW THAT BIRD--Social workers take Big Bird and place him in adoption. He runs away from this new parents, and is abducted by criminals who want to make him a carnival act. The Sesame Street residents scour the country to find their friend.
1986--MUPPETS: A CELEBRATION OF 30 YEARS--Celebrity appearances include Big Bird.
1986--THE TICK--On the Tick TV series, the amnesiac Tick sees Grover (from Sesame Street) on the TV and says "Daddy?" in the TVCU, if we accept Ivan Ronald Schablotski's theory that Grover is from the Monsters, Inc. realm, then he simply would have mated with a human, and the Tick is the product and example of why human/monster breeding is a bad idea.
1987--THE ADVENTURES OF SUPER GROVER--Sesame Street's own super-hero on another misadventure that also involves Big Bird.
1987--MUPPET BABIES--"The Little Piggy Went to Hollywood"--Probably the biggest clue that Muppet Babies must occur in the Looniverse, rather than in the past of the TVCU Muppets is this episode, where several celebrities are shown on TV, including Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street.
December 25, 1987--A MUPPET FAMILY CHRISTMAS--Fozzie invites his friends, including Big Bird, to his mother's for Christmas. Ivan adds: I also wanna point out that the 1987 Muppets Christmas Special which showcases a number of characters from Sesame Street ALSO crosses over with Fraggle Rock and solidifies Muppet Babies as official back story for Kermit, Piggie, and the gang, thus bringing together all four Hensonverse franchises. Shame they couldn't fit The Dark Crystal in somewhere...
1989--BILL AND TED'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURES--"It's a Bogus Day in the Neighborhood"--I'm guessing on the date. I'm sure James will set us all straight when his Bill and Ted blog is finished. For now I'm assuming the show and cartoon must have taken place between the first two films. Here is what James says about this crossover: Thanks to our most excellent friends Bill and Ted I think I found one of the most bizarre crossovers of all time. It's definitely weirder than the Birthday Massacre's below the table sequel to The Prisoner, and it just might be weirder than Adam West's Drunk Batman vs. Super King of Texas vs Frankie(stein). In the Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures episode "It's a Bogus Day in the Neighborhood" Bill and Ted are distressed to discover that Mr. Raddish (henceforth Mr. Rodgers) is retiring. The duo travel down to the TV studio and convence Mr. Rodgers to stay on air if they become his cohosts. All of Mr. Rodgers puppets are sentient (as they were on the real show). When the ratings come in, everyone loves Bill and Ted and, for some reason, Mr. Rodgers is fired. He then gets a job on the Frogame Street (Sesame Street) show; since Rodgers is dressed up like a frog, it seems that everyone's a puppet--not nice monsters. But no, the Oscar the Grouch analogue is definitely...a Grouch, I guess, and eats Mr. Rodger's outfit. Mr. Rodger is quickly fired from that show, and goes to work for a late-night diet telemarketing scam where he's almost murdered by his crazy co-host Greta. Greta is some kind of hippo-woman. Literally. I can't help but think that Greta is a lawyer-friendly analogue of Heidi the Hippo from Peter Jackson's Muppet parody Meet the Feebles. I wasn't able to sit all the way through Meet the Feebles, so I can't say for sure; but Greta's murderous insanity fits excellently with Heidi's murderous insanity. Plus, how many different murderous hippo-women can there be? Also, at the end of Meet the Feebles, Heidi is placed in the witness protection program. It's entirely possible "Greta" is Heidi's new identity. Eventually Bill and Ted save Mr. Rodgers and Rodgers once more takes command of his show. So, this episode of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures crosses over with Mr. Rodger's Neighborhood and Sesame Street, with a possible crossover with Meet the Feebles. Its notable that this is the only episode of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures where no time travel or universe-hopping took place.
May 16, 1990--Jim Henson passes away. Jim Henson was the manager for the muppets and the folks on Sesame Street.
1991--PARKER LEWIS CAN'T LOSE--"Fat Boy and Little Man"--Parker says, "Not since Big Bird has an animal done so much for so many." There are many previous appearances of Sesame Street merchandise on the show, which could make this comment go either way, but since both shows are separately tied into the TVCU, and going with my reality show de-zonking theory, this could count as a crossover.
November 1996--SESAME STREET--The Simpsons travel from the Bongo Universe to Sesame Street of the TVCU.
1996--DUNSTON CHECKS IN--Robert says that Mrs. Dubrow "once kicked Big Bird in the nuts."
December 25, 1996--ELMO SAVES CHRISTMAS--Elmo uses a magic snow globe to wish that every day were Christmas, and then has to travel back in time to undo the wish when he finds there are negative consequences to his wish.
February 1998--SOUL MAN--"The Stan Plan"--I don't know much about the appearance here of Big Bird. This show is in through other crossovers, but likely Big Bird's appearance is probably an imaginary one or watching him on TV. Hopefully I can watch this episode and update this.
1998--THE BEST OF KERMIT ON SESAME STREET--Sesame Street honors arguably it's greatest break out star, Kermit the Frog, in an awards ceremony hosted by Grover.
1998--ELMOPALOOZA!--John Stewart of the DAILY SHOW is to host a retrospective on SESAME STREET but gets locked in his dressing room with the tapes. Elmo attempts to salvage the show the best he can.
1998--THE SIMPSONS--"Trash of the Titans"--During the musical number, when people pop out of bins and say "Who can?", one of the characters is Oscar the Grouch, the character from this show who lives in a bin.
November 16, 1998 to Present--ELMO'S WORLD--Sesame Street newcomer and sensation Elmo the Monster becomes host of his own wildly popular television show that takes place in his room.
1999--THE ADVENTURES OF ELMO IN GROUCHLAND--Elmo travels to Grouchland. We learn from this adventure that grouches like Oscar are from this other-dimensional reality. Not all of them appear like monsters. Some look like humans, such as the Grouch Queen. Being a grouch is more of a state of mind than a race.
1999 to Present--SESAME ENGLISH--This show takes place on Sesame Street but revolves around foreign exchange student Tingo.
March 2000--FAMILY GUY--"I Am Peter, Hear Me Roar"--The monsters shown on the island in the timeshare are from the book Where the Wild Things Are. During the catfight between Lois and Gloria, a baker came out of the kitchen carrying ten banana cream pies and singing, "Ten banana cream pies!" He was then knocked down by Lois and Gloria’s fighting. This is a reference to the old "falling baker" films from Sesame Street that aired in the 1970s and 1980s. The cutaway gag where Peter is in the net surrounded by apes parodies a scene from Planet of the Apes.
July 1 to 22, 2000--FAMILY GUY--"A Picture's Worth a Thousand Bucks"--Peter and Meg walk through New York to music from The Flintstones. The background changes into Bedrock]until they back out of it. The background change could also be a reference to the Warner Bros.' cartoon Duck Amuck, where Daffy Duck is seen wandering from one scenery to another, due to the fact that Bugs is the artist drawing Daffy into different scenes, in particular a sequence in which he is skiing in a snowfield and suddenly wanders into a different, Hawaiian-themed scene. In a cutaway, Walt Disney is seen drawing a picture of Minnie Mouse, ordering her to strip, much to her distress. Meg is able to annoy pigeons and Big Bird from Sesame Street with her bird calls.
2000--THE SIMPSONS--"Missionary: Impossible"--Big Bird is in the mob attacking Homer.
2000--SOUTH PARK--"Chef Goes Nanners"--One KKK member lifts up his robe to reveal feet that look like Big Bird's
2001--BETWEEN THE LIONS--These talking lions are visited by Sesame Street residents.
2002 to Present--PLAY WITH ME SESAME--As Elmo becomes the primary star of Sesame Street, original cast members such as Big Bird, Grover, Cookie Monster, Bert and Ernie spin off into this second show that is more about playing games that the young home viewer can play along with.
2003--SESAME STREET: THREE BEARS AND A NEW BABY--First I should say, the three bears from Goldilocks have moved at this point from one of the multiple dimensions in which fairy tales exist to Sesame Street. In this tale, Baby Bear is expecting a new sibling.
2003--LITTLE BRITAIN--"Most People in a Mini"--According to the narrator, Big Bird was born in Great Britain, before migrating to the United States to break into public television.
May 2004--SIMPSONS--"Bart-Mangled Banner"--After Bart moons the flag, the Simpsons are thrown in the Ronald Reagan Re-Education Center, which also holds Bill Clinton, the Dixie Chicks, Michael Moore, and Elmo (of SESAME STREET).
2005--Open huis in Sesamstraat--Elmo appears in this foreign knock-off of the show.
2005--THE GRIM ADVENTURES OF BILLY AND MANDY--"Scythe For Sale"--the green, dumpster-residing creature resembles Oscar the Grouch
December 2005--FAMILY GUY--"The Father, the Son, and the Holy Fonz"--Stewie became the pinball in the Sesame Street segment Pinball Number Count". Peter incorporates a number of elements from Fonzie in his religion. Peter tells the congregation to “sit on it,” and then “let us ‘Aaaayyyy!” two of Fonzie’s catch phrases. There is also a motorcycle in the church, as well as a jukebox, a reference to Fonzie’s trademark move of pounding his hand on a jukebox to automatically make it play his song. Peter also refers to the “mystery” of Richie’s older brother (who was never seen again after the first episode of Happy Days) and reads a lesson to the congregation from “Potsie’s Letter to the Tuscaderos.” After Stewie is released from his bubble, he says to Brian that he and his friends at Cobra Kai will take him down, referring to the name of the gang of bullies in The Karate Kid. In the opening sequence, Peter summons Bill Lumbergh from the film Office Space to tell Lois she needs to “not complain about this” and then, “and if you could sit at the kids’ table, that’d be great.” Brian torments Stewie by forcing him to watch The View. In this version, the women act very much like farm hens, clucking and such as they sit. Star Jones Reynolds even lays an egg. Coincidentally, there was a MADtv sketch in season 10 where it portrayed the female hosts of The View as clucking, cackling hens (with castmember Michael McDonald as a farmer who kills one of them when she doesn’t produce eggs for him). This is in part of the criticism of the show in which many complain that there is too much talking. Peter dances with Paula Abdul in footage of the video for Opposites Attract. He is superimposed over the animated role of MC Skat Kat, and sings an altered version of the original song’s lyrics, mainly replacing the line “Opposites attract” with “I’m dressed like a cat.” According to the DVD commentary, Paula Abdul had to come in and rerecord the song since the technical staff couldn’t separate her singing and replace MC Skat Kat’s lines with Peter’s. This is the second appearance of Fonzie in the series. The first time was in the episode The Son Also Draws, when Peter went on a vision quest and used Fonzie as a guidance.
August 14, 2006--SESAME STREET--Detective John Munch of New York's Special Victims Unit visits Sesame Street.
2006--AMERICAN DAD--"Lincoln Lover"--Bert and Ernie appear in a musical number.
December 24, 2006 to December 25, 2006--A SESAME STREET CHRISTMAS CAROL--As those three ghosts of Christmas Past, Present and Future continue to do, this time they visit Oscar the Grouch.
2007--FAMILY GUY--"Believe It or Not, Joe's Walking on Air"--While scanning the donors for leg transplants, Big Bird's legs are seen along with a mermaid's tail, and horse's legs.
2007--The Family Guy 100th Episode Celebration--Cookie Monster in rehab
2008--THE COLBERT REPORT--The Cookie Monster appears to talk about why we should eat vegetables.
2008--SOUTH PARK--"Kyle Sucks Cartman's Balls - The Trilogy"--Oscar the Grouch is in Imaginationland.
2008--THE MENTALIST--"Red Hair and Silver Tape"--Jane asks Cho if he suspects that the "Sesame Street Crips" committed the crime.
2009--SCRUBS--Muppets have appeared on this show I once thought to be a self-contained crossover free show until Ivan set me straight about Apollo Bars and Cougars, but only within Doctor John Dorian's imagination.
2009--THE OFFICE--"Murder"--Kevin claims that the Swedish Chef "lives on Sesame Street."
November 2009--CLEVELAND SHOW--"Cleveland Jr. Cherry Bomb"--Bert and Ernie from Sesame Street make a cameo appearance to make fun of the rumor that they are homosexual. In order to get to the Whoreshack, Cleveland summons a portal with a clap of his hands. This was a reference to the popular 2007 video game Portal.  During the musical number "Straight Outta Stoolbend". Cleveland mentions the 'Cleveland Steamer', a notorious poop joke and sexual act on Family Guy.
April 2010--FAMILY GUY--"April in Quahog"--Grover seen
June 2010--FAMILY GUY--"Partial Terms of Endearment"--The scene where Peter lures Lois out to the desert with DVD's of Grey's Anatomy and how his trap backfires is a reference to Looney Tunes characters, Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner. Also the Miscarriage Kit is from ACME. Meg mentions when she dated Count von Count from Sesame Street. He counts three nipples on Meg's breasts, gets freaked out and leaves her.
2010--HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER--"The Wedding Bride"--Barney mentions that the only street where being nice is normal has a big yellow bird living in it.
2010--SIMPSONS--"To Surveil, with Love"--Marge finds Maggie watching a surveilance camera that shows a gay bar in which the patrons resemble "Sesame Street" characters.
Mid to Late February 2012--HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER--"NO Pressure"--Your Uncle Toby assures me that it was his cousin Conan, the talk show host, who visited McClaren's bar. He talks about it here, where he makes the connection between HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER and 'Lateline', 'Eaglehart', 'Arli$$', 'Web Therapy', 'Sesame Street', 'The Office', '30 Rock', 'Veronica's Closet', "The Rutles 2: Can't Buy Me Lunch", 'Primetime Glick', "Elmopalooza!", 'DAG', the Emmy Awards, 'The Simpsons', 'Dr. Katz, Professional Therapist', 'Space Ghost, Coast To Coast', and 'Futurama'.
October 6, 2012--SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE--"Daniel Craig/Muse"--Big Bird appears on Weekend Update to speak out against Mitt Romney wanting to shut down PBS, including Sesame Street. Watch it here.
2013--FAMILY GUY--"Brian's Play"--Beaker and Big Bird seen
3012--FUTURAMA--"Fun on a Bun"--Someone says that another name for the Wooly Mammoth was the "Snuffleupagus"
Alternate Realities: (Yes, even in a world of Muppets, not everything fits.
AVENUE Q---This is a broadway musical created by some of the original writers from Sesame Street. It's an adult parody.
BLUE HARVEST--In a universe where Star Wars is amalgamated with Family Guy, Cookie Monster is a Wampa.
BONGO UNIVERSE--Family Guy, American Dad, and the Simpsons depict Sesame Street on many occasions as a real show with merchandising, but in which the muppets are also real.
CINEVERSE--In Night at the Museaum: Battle of the Smithsonian, everything comes to life at the Smithsonian, gaining the memories and personalities of the things they portray. Oscar the Grouch is an exhibit there, and comes to life, wishing to join the forces of evil, but being denied. Oscar believes he really is Oscar, but he is not. Oscar does not exist in this reality other than as a fictional character.
Earth-1001--On the West Wing, we learn that in this reality Sesame Street is what it is here in the real world.
ERNEST & BERTRAM--An alternate reality where Sesame Street residents Bert and Ernie are homosexuals.
MIRROR UNIVERSE--See picture below.
MUPPET UNIVERSE--As I've said before, everything is real somewhere. Even fiction within fiction. The Muppets exist in the TVCU. But many of them are actors, and they make movies. In the TVCU, they are just fictional movies, but in the MUPPET UNIVERSE, they are real. This includes, (but is not limited to) CinderElmo, Great Muppet Caper, Abby in Wonderland and Elmos' Musical Adventure: Peter and the Wolf.
ROBOT CHICKEN UNIVERSE--Strangely, Robot Chicken does a parody of a Mad TV parody, in which Big Bird has bird flu.
SKITLANDIA--Mad TV had a recurring series of sketches spoofing Sesame Street.
TREEHOUSE OF HORROR--Homer and Edmund's father meet a blue Muppet vampire, snacking on an orange-colored Big Bird-like Muppet.
UNNAMED DIVERGENT TIMELINE--In Wizard of Oz 3: Dorothy Goes to Hell, the Count from Sesame Street makes a brief cameo.
WONDER SHOWZEN--An MTV parody of Sesame Street.
Note that in the ANGEL episode "Smile Time", Angel is turned into a puppet like what we in the real world would consider to be a Muppet. But since I claim Muppets are not puppets in the TVCU, Angel is not turned into a Muppet, but he is turned into a puppet.
I know I've left some out. Some I did so because I didn't have enough info, others just because it was a the millionth appearance of Elmo, and it was just getting redundant.
Oh, and not what I would consider a valid crossover, but this is really fun to watch anyways, so I couldn't leave it out.
Sunday, January 16, 2011
Continuing my updates...
On the real people seeming to be fictional in the same reality, James has posted: I don't have so much of a problem with the comic books existing in the same world. We have the same bizarre issue in the WNU/TVCU--look at The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, or other novels where comics featuring already wolded heroes exist within the same universe as the heroes themselves. I don't have a problem with it, mostly because the pulp heroes were aware of their magazines: Doc Savage made some negitive comics about Lester Dent, The Shadow novels were all based on his files (and Walter Gibson was a trusted agent--see The Sting of the Green Hornet and The Chinatown Death Cloud Peril), and a retired G-8 would answer his own letters page. If this level of metatextuality didn't affect the pulp heroes, I don't think it really affects the costumed adventuers.
Incidentally, since I've first written this blog up to the present, it has remained one of the most popular blogs on the list. Thus, the logical thing is to look at what I've done here, and continue to model my future blogs on ones like this.
First, let me say how much I truly enjoyed the movie. It wasn't the parody I expected and it truly did justice to it's past incarnations.
So let's get started. The Green Hornet is a generational hero. The bulk of his appearances in all forms of media all fit within the TVCU (even if they are in book or comic form.) Let's now take a look at the history of the Green Hornet. (Note that Mark Ellis, Matthew Baugh, and Win Scott Eckert have compiled an awesome chronology of the Green Hornet that can be found at http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Reid.htm. This entire timeline fits within the TVCU. Also note that there are many Green Hornet crossovers in Win Scott Eckert's CROSSOVERS: A SECRET CHRONOLOGY OF THE WORLD. All of these are also in the TVCU. There's no need for me to repeat of all of them, especially those that are in books and comics. So I'm only going to cover the appearances that are from television, movies, and even radio (where he started.)
1906--Birth of Britt Reid.
1915--Birth of Ikano Kato.
1934--Britt Reid begins working as a crime reporter at the Daily Sentinel.
1935--Britt saves Kato's life, after which Kato comes to America to work for the Reid family.
1935 to 1953--THE GREEN HORNET (RADIO AND COMICS)--Events of the "golden age" of the Green Hornet (Britt Reid.)
Fall 1935--THE GREEN HORNET (RADIO)--The Green Hornet makes his debut with the help of his partner Kato. This series replaced to previous series featuring WARNER LESTER, MANHUNTER and DR. FANG. In the final episodes of both, the stars of each battle to the death. Lester's sidekick Mike Axford would later appear on THE GREEN HORNET radio series. It should be noted that it is well established throughout the radio show that the Green Hornet is the nephew of THE LONE RANGER. At one point someone asks Reid about a picture on his wall of a masked man on a white horse. He responds that it is his uncle while the William Tell Overture (theme music of THE LONE RANGER) plays.
1938--MASKS--An adventure featuring Green Hornet, Kato, The Shadow, Miss Fury, Black Bat, Zorro, The Spider and others.
Summer 1939--THE GREEN HORNET (SERIAL)--The Green Hornet and Kato take on the Leader.
Summer 1940--THE GREEN HORNET STRIKES AGAIN! (SERIAL)--The duo take on Boss Crogan.
August 1940--BRAVE AND THE BOLD...THE LOST ISSUES--Batman and the Green Hornet. See http://braveandboldlost.blogspot.com/2010/08/green-hornet.html
November 27, 1940 to July 20, 1973--DRAGON: THE BRUCE LEE STORY--Normally I wouldn't include any movie based on a true story. Those usually go to Earth-Prime. But I felt this was a good exception. In this film we see Bruce Lee play Kato on TV. Even though Kato and the Green Hornet were real, there was a television show in the 1960s called THE GREEN HORNET since Batman and Robin watched it. And we know that Bruce Lee existed in the TVCU thanks to the new film, where the latest Kato is a fan. So this movie actually fits well into this chronology.
May 1942--STING OF THE GREEN HORNET (NOW COMICS)--In this story, we find the Green Hornet encountering THE SHADOW (also a pulp hero who started in radio), and CAPTAIN AMERICA (though including Cap doesn't include all his appearances, just as with the TVCU Superman.) Also appearing are Clark Kent (SUPERMAN) and Lois Lane, NICK FURY, and President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. (Note that when real people appear in the TVCU, it is their TVCU counterparts, who usually are very similar to the real world versions, but have had additional experiences that replace real world experiences.) Also referenced are the SUB-MARINER and the YANKEE COMMANDO.
1963--BURKE'S LAW--Henry the chauffeur is quoted as saying ""Never had aggravation like this when I worked for Green Hornet!" Thanks Toby for this. You revealed this info two weeks after I originally posted this blog. I'm so glad I go back to your site for updates. In another episode, Burke threatens to send Henry back to his previous employer, Charlie Chan.
Winter 1964--A SHOT IN THE DARK--Inspector Jacques Clouseau hires a martial artist named Cato to be his assistant. Perhaps he was inspired by the stories of those American criminals, or by that rich newspaper man Britt Reid. (There was a solid reference to James Bond in the Steve Martin PINK PANTHER film, and since the Martin version was not a true remake in that the story was completely different, I postulate that the diamond is the same from the earlier films, and that Clouseau must be a relative of the one from the original films. Thus that is my reasoning for inclusion.)
Spring 1964--THE GREEN HORNET (TELEVISION SERIES) and THE GREEN HORNET CHRONICLES (MOONSTONE BOOKS)--Britt Reid's nephew, Britt Reid II, becomes the second Green Hornet, and teams with Kato's son, Hayashi.
Summer 1964--THE GREEN HORNET CHRONICLES--"Fang and Sting"--This story is written by Win Scott Eckert so naturally it is full of crossovers. These are DR. FANG, DOCTOR FU MANCHU, WARNER LESTER, MANHUNTER, PATRICIA WILDMAN (and thus her father DOC SAVAGE) from THE EVIL IN PEMBERLEY HOUSE, and THE LONE RANGER.
Spring 1966--BATMAN (TELEVISON SERIES)--"The Spell of Tut"--The Green Hornet and Kato make a cameo appearance in this adventure of Batman and Robin. Note that in another episode of Batman, Dick and Bruce are watching the GREEN HORNET on TV. Though it is probably some kind of documentary about the "villains".
Fall 1966--BATMAN (TELEVISION SERIES)--"A Piece of the Action / Batman's Satisfaction"--The g
Green Hornet and Kato work on a case together with Batman II (Dick Grayson) and Robin II (Bruce Wayne Jr.). (Note that this episode, according to the research of a man named Hugh in a letter to Toby O'Brien, may be the first time that the United States of the TVCU started using the prefix of 555 for phone numbers.)
June 1967--HELLTOWN--This is a novel featuring the heroic QUESTION. This is the origin story for the TVCU version of the Question. The following either appear or are mentioned: THE SCARLET PIMPERNEL, THE GREEN HORNET, WILDCAT, THE SANDMAN, THE BLACK CANARY, BATMAN and Alfred Pennyworth, THE SHADOW, RICHARD DRAGON, Lady Shiva, and Oracle (Barbara Gordon I).
Summer 1967--THE GREEN HORNET CHRONICLES--"The Inside Man"--Story by Matthew Baugh. In this tale we learn that the Green Hornet is friends with tribe that the LONE RANGER's sidekick Tonto belonged to. Also, a character in the story is related to HAHNOMA RETURNS, who is the star of his own series of mystery stories.
Summer 1967--THE GREEN HORNET CHRONICLES--"Mutual Assured Destruction"--Story by Bill Spangler. The Green Hornet mentions his uncle, THE LONE RANGER.
Spring 1968--THE GREEN HORNET CHRONICLES--"Flight of the Yellowjacket"--Story by Howard Hopkins. In this story we encounter two descendants of Butch Cavendish, legendary enemy of THE LONE RANGER. Note that recently a follow-up called the Green Hornet Casefiles was published. I have yet to read it, and don't know the content or where it fits on the chronology, but since the same group of Wold Newton scholars are authoring this book, I'm sure it's chock full of crossovers and fits into this timeline nicely.
September 1970--INVISIBLE DEATH--Novel by Lin Carter featuring PRINCE ZARKON. Lots of crossover appearances here: THE SHADOW, THE SPIDER, THE GREEN HORNET II (BRITT REID II), BATMAN II (DICK GRAYSON), DOC SAVAGE (through the appearance of his assistant Ham Brooks), NANCY DREW (through her father Carson), PROFESSOR S.F.X. VAN DUSEN, THE THINKING MACHINE (through a relative), ELLERY QUEEN (through his law partner Beau Rummel), CAPTAIN HAZZARD (through Hazzard Industries), WU FANG, DOCTOR DEATH (through Inspector Ricks and Rance Mandarin),
April 1971--THE VOLCANO OGRE--Novel by Lin Carter featuring PRINCE ZARKON. Lots of crossover appearances here: THE AVENGER, PHILO VANCE, THE PHANTOM DETECTIVE, DON WINSLOW OF THE NAVY, DOC SAVAGE (through his assistant Renny), THE SHADOW, THE SPIDER, "HOP" HARRIGAN, BARNEY BAXTER, TAILSPIN TOMMY TOMPKINS, BILL BARNES, SMILIN' JACK MARTIN, FRANK HAVENS.
Winter 1978--REVENGE OF THE PINK PANTHER--In this film, Clouseau drives the "Silver Hornet." Surely this is more evidence that Clouseau was an admirer of the GREEN HORNET.
Spring 1986--CROSSOVERS--Alan Reid (nephew of Britt Reid II), dies on his first outing as the Green Hornet.
Summer 1989--CROSSOVERS--Alan Reid's brother Paul becomes the next Green Hornet and will work with various Katos over time.
Fall 1990--THE GREEN HORNET VOLUME 1 # 11 (NOW COMICS)--Paul Reid adds the Black Stinger helicopter to his vehicles / weapons. It is made by Nelson Aviation, which is owned by the legendary AIRBOY.
November 1990--GREEN HORNET MINI-SERIES (NOW COMICS)--In this Paul Reid adventure, there is a criminal named Blinky McQuade. This was once the undercover alias of THE SPIDER. What actual connection between this criminal and THE SPIDER is unknown.
1993--QING FENG XIA--In Hong Kong, a man named Dong becomes the Green Hornet.
Fall 2002 to Fall 2003--SONIC X--Sonic the Hedgehog (yes, I'm going here) and others from the Tooniverse are transported to the TV Crossover Universe. One time during this period, Sonic and his new friend Chris are both dressed up as the Green Hornet and Kato by Chris' butler. When asked why, the butler responded that the Green Hornet was his childhood hero. Not everyone was convinced of the villainy of the Green Hornet.
2005--THE GREEN HORNET (FRENCH FILM)--The current Green Hornet deals with a series of museum robberies.
January 2010--MEAN STREETS--"The Difference a Day Makes"--John D Lindsey Jr: Mean Streets is a collection of four "urban fantasy" novellas; it contains a Dresden Files story by Jim Butcher, a Nightside story by Simon Green, a Greywalker story by Kat Richardson, and a Remy Chandler story by Thomas Sniegoski. The Nightside story, "The Difference a Day Makes", is notable because the traffic in the Nightside includes "a lipstick red Plymouth Fury with a dead man grinning at the wheel" (Stephen King's Christine) and "a great black beauty of a car cruised past, driven by an Oriental in black leathers, and the man in the back in the green face mask and the snap-brimmed hat nodded respectfully to me in passing." The Green Hornet and Kato ended up in the Nightside.
Summer 2010--THE GREEN HORNET--Another of the Reids takes on the mantle of Green Hornet with the aid of another Kato. (There could be arguments that this film should be an alternate universe, but then was not the 1960s television series meant to be a remake, not a continuation? But yet a little bit of creativity turned the Green Hornet into a generational hero to explain it away. And that same generational reasoning is why I include this new film into continuity. Note that in this film, Kato, who likes to draw, has a picture of Bruce Lee in his sketch book. Bruce Lee played Kato in the 1960s TV show. This isn't a "zonk" as I already explained. In the 1960s, Batman and Robin would watch THE GREEN HORNET on TV, even though they had also worked with them. The show was just a fictionalized version of the duo. Additionally, This Britt Reid (though perhaps not his real name) also has a poster of the Lone Ranger on his wall, just as the first Britt Reid did. The Lone Ranger was the uncle of the first Green Hornet, and thus a relative of this one as well.
January 2011--GREEN HORNET # 12--"Idols"--Christofer Nigro informed me of this: Interesting crossover...sort of! In Dynamite's GREEN HORNET #12 (reprinted in the KEVIN SMITH'S GREEN HORNET: IDOLS TPB), when the current Green Hornet (a young Britt Reid "II") is held captive by the somewhat crooked Lt. Chritton in his secret interrogation shack at the edge of Century City, behind them on the wall are several posters of sexy women, one of which is *very clearly* Vampirella! I think maybe you should consider mentioning this one in your HCU book, Rob, even though the actual Vampirella doesn't appear, but only a pin-up of her :-) [Notes from Rob: This is not the same Green Hornet from the Seth Rogan film, nor is this the same Britt Reid II who operated in the 60s. This must be another line of the family.]
2080--DARK TOMORROW--A new Green Hornet and Kato begin having adventures.
EARTH-1 (PRE-CRISIS): I know it's the popular notion that the Inferior Five were on Earth-12 based on a remark in a Captain Carrot issue that they were looking for Earth-12, I go more with the theory from Mike's Amazing World of DC Comics that they (and the Super Friends) were on Earth-1. In fact, in the 1970s, the Super Friends continuity was interwoven with Earth-1. However, ivan is right and I wished I had remembered the Yellow Jacket.
EARTH-12 (PRE-CRISIS): Crazy Ivan said... the home of the Inferior-5. Merry Man, the leader of the I-5 had parents that were non-powered superheroes during world war two. Before that, a relative of his was the pulp-era mystery man called the Yellow Jacket, with a sidekick called Plato, and a vehicle called the Gold Bug.
Earth-12 was populated by parodies from across pop-culture, but many of DC's major characters existed there with the same names as in the DCU (Superman, Batman, etc), leading many to suspect that the SuperFriends cartoon took place in Earth-12 continuity.
A timeline by Mikel Norwitz details much of this world, including mention of Yellow Jacket.
LOONIVERSE: Strangely, in this reality, the "Masked Hornet" is a television series. We learn this from a conversation Huckleberry Hound has, during his duties as a police office, with a masked man he pulls over, who claims to be the actor who plays the Masked Hornet on TV.
TOONIVERSE: In this reality there is a hero named BATFINK who works with his partner Karate.
TOONIVERSE MINUS: In this reality, there is a BROWN HORNET who drove a "White Beauty" car. In the future his descendant carries on the heroic tradition.
So that's the world of the Green Hornet legacy as it occurs in the TV Crossover Universe and the TV Crossover Multiverse. Hope you enjoyed. Please leave me comments if you have anything you disagreed with. So long as it's polite, I love to have fun debate, and sometimes I'm actually convinced that I'm wrong, and will make changes.
BONUS FEATURE: SUPER HEROES AND SUPER VILLAINS IN THE TVCU
So far I've written five blogs about super-heroes. They are Tarzan, Superman, the Green Hornet, the Hulk, and now Batman. The TVCU is not about super-heroes. It's a coincidence that I've focused on those subjects. Perhaps it was subconscious on my part. But super-heroes do exist in the TVCU.
I was going to write a comprehensive guide to include here on the super-heroes in the TVCU, but have decided not to. There are just too many. Just note that the primary heroes we know of are those mentioned in Crossovers, the Super-Friends, the animated Justice League, and pretty much all of the golden age heroes thanks to James Robinson's Golden Age and Starman.