Sunday, January 6, 2013

Separated at Birth? The Bob Newhart Show and Newhart


My sitcom blog posts are not very popular, and yet, they are my favorite.  They are usually very short, simple, and uncomplicated, and yet, all have their place within a larger shared reality.  It was sitcoms that cross connected, like the All in the Family and Happy Days groups, that got me into this whole obsession.

This one is pretty neat, because I had to create a theory based on a continuity glitch caused by crossover connections.  Newhart was supposed to be a dream of Dr. Hartley of the Bob Newhart Show, but if you connect the crossover dots, you'll find they coexist within the same shared reality.  


In the final episode of Newhart, it was revealed that the entire series was a dream of Dr. Bob Hartley from the Bob Newhart Show.  However, crossover evidence points to both shows being in the TVCU. I've talked before about how some events can exist in the same world where they are considered fictional, because certain writers were actually having psychic flashes of real events, but assumed it was something from their own imagination.  I believe something like that can explain these two shows. But if we consider that the two characters of Bob Hartley and Dick Loudon are so similar, then perhaps it could be postulated that the two may be twins, separated at birth, and they had, like many twins, especially in the world of TV, a psychic connection.

But wait, there's more.  It may be that they were triplets.  And the third child was Bob Newhart, the comedian.  Newhart himself likely had visions of those brothers' lives, which he used to create his hit shows.  Later, Hartley would dream that he was Bob Newhart hosting Saturday Night Live.**

Now, on to the crossovers...

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1972 to 1978--THE BOB NEWHART SHOW--The story of Dr. Bob Hartley, a psychiatrist.


1982 to 1990--NEWHART--Author Dick Loudon and his wife move to Vermont and buy an inn, and have to adjust to lots of crazy locals.

November 1982--NEWHART--"No Tigers at the Circus"--Dick is watching his favorite show, which apparently is THE BOB NEWHART SHOW.  A zonk, sure.  And possible evidence of separate realities. But actually evidence of the same reality.  Bob is dreaming about watching a show about himself?  Since the triplet is Bob Newhart himself, we know that there was indeed a show called the Bob Newhart Show in the TVCU.

October 1985--NEWHART--"Oh, That Morocco"--From Matt Hickman:  I know we don't use the same actor theory most of the time in the TVCU but in the Newhart show SE4 ep4 Oh, That Morocco Rebeca Arthur plays unnamed stewardess. She also played Blakis May Anne on Prefect Strangers Mary Anne's job stewardess

March 1987--ALF--"Going Out of My Head Over You"--OK, I'll let you guys choose to count this or skip it.  Thom Holbrook over at Poobala says no.  Meanwhile, both the Westphallians and IMDB says yes.  So here's the facts.  Willie has a friend whose a psychiatrist.  It's not Dr. Hartley, but it's Dr. Lawrence 'Larry' Dykstra, played by Bill Daily, who played a completely different character on the Bob Newhart Show.  But in the waiting room is an unnamed patient played by Jack Riley, meant to invoke his famous role as Dr. Hartley's patient, Elliot Carlin.  IMDB and the Westphallians say it is him.  Thom says it isn't.  Add to this that ALF later references knowing about psychology from having watched the show The Bob Newhart Show!!!  But these zonks have always been easily explained, and with my triplet theory, we know that there was a show called that in the TVCU.  So you decide.  ALF is in the TVCU, so there is that to add into your decision.  This story happened in the TVCU whether it was Elliot Carlin or some other guy.

November 1988--ST. ELSEWHERE--"Close Encounters"--Dr. Robert Hartley's patient Elliot Carlin (BOB NEWHART SHOW) appears.  The character actually appears in several episodes of St. Elsewhere, confirming the connection to the Bob Newhart Show.  Oh, one extra note.  In the final episode of St. Elsewhere, it turns out the whole series was just a daydream of an autistic child.  So in the world of Westphalians, Newhart and its crossovers are a dream of Dr. Hartley, but his world is a fantasy of a child.  Wow.  See my St. Elsewhere blog (entitled "Is Tommy Westphal God?" for more on that.

November 1988--NEWHART--"I Married Dick"--Aha, he says.  Dick and his wife Joanne attend marriage counseling. (Though, who else would he attend it with?) And who is also a patient of the shrink they are seeing?  Mr. unnamed patient played by Jack Riley, who we all know is Hartley's patient Elliott Carlin.  Aha, indeed.  And another patient mentions having seen psychiatrist in Chicago.  Double Aha!!!  (Oh, I guess I never mentioned THE BOB NEWHART SHOW was set in Chicago.  Now, Aha!!!)

May 1990--NEWHART--"The Last Newhart"--A Japanese business buys the whole town, except for the inn because Dick won't sell. all turns out to be a dream of Dr. Bob Hartley....or is it?

October 1990--TINY TOON ADVENTURES--"Hollywood Plucky"--This series is part of the Looniverse, but placed here as it's relevant to the TVCU.  Larry, Darryl, and Darryl are at a Hollywood restaurant where Plucky Duck is the waiter.  Hollywood has a portal to the Looniverse, and Looniverse characters often come over to the TVCU.  For some reason, Hollywood types don't really find it unusual.  And the three brothers are the type of tend to get around.  So this is the Looniverse Plucky meeting the TVCU brothers.

November 1991--THE BOB NEWHART SHOW 19TH ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL--Following Bob Hartley's very realistic dream about another life as inn keeper Dick Loudon in Vermont, Bob confides his dream to his friend, airline pilot Howard Borden.  Howard reveals he had a similar dream where he was an astronaut for five seasons.  (We then get a cut to a clip from I DREAM OF JEANNIE).  Perhaps Larry and Major Roger Healey were also separated at birth.  Note too that this episode follows directly from the Newhart final episode, and in one scene of this special, Bob sees three repairmen that are Larry, Darryl and Daryl, residents of the small town where Dick's inn is.  This could in one sense be made to imply that Bob had already met them, and they creeped into his subconscious dream.  However, I think that it really means that the two shows are in the same reality, and that some time had actually passed between that final episode and this special, and after the Japanese had bought the town in Vermont, those three migrated south to become repairmen.  (The special does air more than a year after the last Newhart aired, so even though it's implied it happened immediately after, there is some evidence that there was a passage of time.)

1993--BOB--"Better to Have Loved and Flossed"--This show also stars Bob Newhart, but as far as I know, there is no dream connection.  However, in this, the final episode, which actually didn't air until years after cancellation, has an appearance of dentist Dr. Jerry Robinson, who was a friend of Dr. Hartley.  Apparently, the owner of the company this Bob works for ran off with a dental hygienist associated with Jerry.  Small world.

March 1994--MURPHY BROWN--"Anything But Cured"--Dr. Hartley's secretary, Carol moves to D.C. after a fight with Jerry and goes to work for Murphy Brown.  Finally, Murphy finds an acceptable secretary.  But Dr. Hartley comes to bring Carol back and Carol chooses to return to work for him.

1994 August Maxwell Sheffield is trying to get Elizabeth Taylor to star in one of his plays. Liz has Fran Fine take her black pearls to a photo shoot she is doing. They are lost in a cab Fran rides in. The pearls are found by a later rider, Annie O'Donnell. She keeps them and wears them to an event. Annie loses them and a thief takes them. Liz is supposed to go to an interview on FYI with Murphy Brown. She cancels when a lead comes on about the pearls. The thief shows up at the Emerson/Walker household. Eventually, the thief gets caught, and Liz gets her pearls back, and Liz will star in Mr. Sheffield's play. (CBS four-program crossover guest-starring Elizabeth Taylor. The Nanny, episode 'Where's the Pearls?'; Can't Hurry Love, episode 'The Elizabeth Taylor Episode''; Murphy Brown, episode 'Trick Or Retreat'; and High Society, episode "The Family Jewels". Dated about eighteen months before the episode aired. The episodes were a marketing stunt to help establish Liz' Black Pearls perfume, but in the TVCU, happens before that product comes to market. Murphy Brown crossed over to The Bob Newhart Show and thus is in the TVCU.)

February 11, 1995--SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE--"Bob Newhart/Des'ree"--Dr. Hartley dreams that he was Bob Newhart hosting Saturday Night Live, including what may have been a real life event turned into a sketch of Dr. Hartley being a guest on the RICKI LAKE SHOW.

May 1997--COACH--"Leaving Orlando"--Coach Hayden Fox and his lovely wife (or girlfriend at this point...I can't remember when they tied the knot) Christine head out to Hayden's Minnesota cabin to find it already occupied.  The squatters are Larry, Darryl and Darryl, who must have moved after selling their land to a Japanese business.

November 1997--GEORGE & LEO--"The Cameo Episode"--Dr. Michael Harris, from NEWHART, appears.  (That's all I know.)  Apparently other Newhart characters cameo as well.

November 2, 2003--CBS AT 75--This whole special turns out to be just a dream of Dr. Hartley.  Geez. I hope this blog isn't just a dream of Dr. Hartley, and I'm just a guy writing a blog inside a snowglobe in some kid's imagination, and that kid's universe is just an atom inside the thumbnail of a college student on pot, and he's just a comic book character created by Grant Morrison.

April 2009--AQUA TEEN HUNGER FORCE--"Creature from the Plaque Lagoon"--Meatwad talks about staying in Newhart's inn in Vermont


SKITLANDIA--On JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE!, some alternate endings to LOST are presented, including one in which it was all just a dream of Dr. Bob Hartley.  Given Dr. Hartley's powers of prophesy, I'd love to include this.  It wouldn't mean Lost was a dream, but that Hartley had yet another psychic dream where he viewed real life events.  However, given the context, in which it's a sketch of writers coming up with ideas, then panning to those ideas, it just doesn't work for me.  It's hilarious, nonetheless.  And before I get the comments, I consider the SNL bit different.  On Kimmel, the Newhart bit is a fictionality within a sketch, whereas on SNL it's a sketch all on it's own, thus a separate story of sorts.  And if you don't like that, disregard it.

**I do get the arguments that Newhart isn't in the same reality.  That it was a dream.  And I get my evidence to the contrary is weak.  But I have very strong evidence that I Dream of Jeannie and the Bob Newhart Show coexist, and when I do my Jeannie blog, that will be made clearer.  But briefly, Jeannie crosses with Bewitched and Scooby, and I've already done blogs on them, which you can check out for further confirmation.  And if Jeannie was more than just a dream, then it makes sense that so was Newhart.  And Newhart does connect with with Drew Carey, that connects with Home Improvement, which connects to Toy Story, which is confirmed in the TVCU and there's a blog you can check out for that. And of course The Bob Newhart Show's connection to St. Elsewhere can allow me to redirect you to my St. Elsewhere blog for further cementing of that into the TVCU.

Saturday, January 5, 2013

You Will Be Visited By Three Ghosts!!! Christmas Carols in the TVCU

First, don't expect me to be pumping out a new blog every day, but I'm in the mood and I did make a Christmas promise to cover Scrooge.

Second, I don't usually cover material that originated from literature, but the three ghosts tend to return as a very traditional Christmas season TV trope, thus making them as worthy of inclusion as historical characters or mythical beings.

Note that as with Dracula, Tarzan, ect, I will not cover appearances and crossovers from literature and comics.  That doesn't meant they don't exist in the TVCU.  They just aren't my focus here.  My upcoming Horror Crossover Universe will not be covering A Christmas Carol, despite its supernatural elements, as its genre is much more of a holiday/religious theme.

December 24 to 25, 1837--A CHRISTMAS CAROL--A miserly man named Ebenezer Scrooge is visited  by three ghosts, who show him his past, present, and future, in an attempt to save him his soul from damnation by getting him to redeem himself.  Though called ghosts or spirits, in fact, the only real ghost in the story is Scrooge's deceased partner Marley, who comes first to warn Scrooge.  The three seem to be in fact angels (the third, the Ghost of Christmas Future, perhaps being an Angel of Death).  It seems, especially based on future follow up stories, that these angels are not the only ones to serve this assignment.  It seems to be a temporary gig.  And additionally, the angels can take different forms, sometimes choosing to take forms (and personalities) of people more familiar to the chosen to make the process easier.  Note that on this night the Ghostbusters (the Real ones) find themselves transported back in time from the 1980s and being disoriented, see the three ghosts and capture them.  They return to find themselves in an alternate timeline where Christmas was no longer celebrated.  They return to Scrooge's time and release the ghosts at the appropriate time so events go on as they should and the timeline is restored.  (Some might argue that the Ghostbusters didn't actually return to their timeline's past, but to the mirror universe, but if that were the case, then they wouldn't have been able to restore events to normal.)  (From episode X-Mas Marks the Spot)

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Victorian Era--BLACKADDER'S CHRISTMAS CAROL--Three ghosts try to convince a very kind, caring and generous Blackadder how his ways will lead to a dark future.

Meanwhile--A KLINGON CHRISTMAS CAROL--set on the Klingon homeworld of Qo'noS

December 24 to 25, 1837--MICKEY'S CHRISTMAS CAROL--Looniverse--From Thomas Paul Jennings:  Apparently the design of (An American Tail) Fievel's father was from the chairman of the Rescue Aid Society in Disney's The Rescurers. Also some mice that appeared in The Rescuers make appearances in The Great Mouse Detective which itself shares a Lizard with Alice in Wonderland and has the same Big Ben chime as Mickey's Christmas Carol.

December 23 to 25, 1842--BUGS BUNNY'S CHRISTMAS CAROL--Looniverse--This one is tough for me.  I consider Mickey's Christmas Carol to be the official Looniverse version of that tale.  In this version, Sam is Scrooge, Porky is Cratchit.  Bugs is dresses as a ghost to scare Scrooge.  This can be reconciled.  Because the story is such a variant, especially there being no ghosts or time travel, as well as the fact Scrooge here owns Cratchit's home and not only fires Cratchit but kicks him and his family out of their homes, it seems as if this may not be the same story, but just something coincidentally similar.  So of course, let me say that this is an ancestor of Bugs.  This Cratchit is an ancestor of Porky and this Scrooge is an ancestor of Sam.  This also features ancestors of Sylvester, Tweety, Pepe Le Pew and Foghorn Leghorn.

1844--CHRISTMAS CAROL:  THE MOVIE--Doctor Who Universe--Not only does the same actor (Simon Callow) play Charles Dickens in both Doctor Who episodes "The Unquiet Dead" and "Wedding of River Song", but also plays him in Christmas Carol: The Movie. In fact, his dress, his beard, everything is the same. EVEN THE STAGE AND THE SPEECH HE GIVES TO INTRODUCE THE STORY IS THE SAME, EXCEPT IN THE MOVIE, THE STORY IS INTERRUPTED BRIEFLY BY A MOUSE RATHER THAN BY GHOSTS. I MEAN IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME!!! So though the main portion of the movie, which is animated, is fictional, the framing parts are in the Doctor Who Universe. Merry Christmas.   Incidentally, the movie was made four years before the DW episode, which means the DW folks were apparently big fans of this film to not only get the same actor, but recreate the first seen exactly, props, costumes, scripts, and all, well, until the Doctor shows up and it all goes to Hell as usual.

between late 1894 and mid 1895--Gemma Doyle trilogy--From James Bojaciuk:  I just finished reading the Gemma Doyle trilogy by Libba Bray at the behest of one of my best friends. Basically Victorian schoolgirls go to an alternate dimension, find magic, things happen. There's more to it than that, but we hardly need to sum up 2,000 pages of plot. The series had two crossovers proper, both with Charles Dickens characters. A Great and Terrible Beauty (book one) featured an appearance of Mr. Bumble, who was very similar to the Mr. Bumble that Oliver Twist encountered. This man is likely the nephew of the original Mr. Bumble. In the last book, The Sweet Far Thing, Felicity Worthington makes the comment that someone will soon be "as fat as Fezziwig." Mr. Fezziwig was the employer of young Ebenezer Scrooge in A Christmas Carol.  Late in the last novel, when the walls between realities are breaking, all the skies turn blood red. I don't think I need to tell you what that means--we've got another Red Skies Crossover with the Crisis on Infinite Earths! Strange how these things just sneak up on you.  
It's strongly possible that the world the girls end up in is a post-apocalyptic Narnia several hundred years after Aslan destroyed it. My reasons for believing this will be covered in the Narnia blog.  All three novels would have taken place between late 1894 and mid 1895 (TVCU time).

19th century--SHERLOCK HOLMES IN ORBIT “THE MOUSE AND THE MASTER” (SHORT STORY BY BRIAN M. THOMPSON)--A man attends a seance with several notable figures.  Because of the characters involved, and references in the book to their individual chronologies that don’t match up, this must take place in a divergent timeline.  Crosses:  Dracula (Brian M. Thompson); Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde; A Picture of Dorian Gray; A Christmas Carol; Alice in Wonderland; Around the World in 80 Days

December 1962--MISTER MAGOO'S CHRISTMAS CAROL--Looniverse--Not a real cross with A Christmas Carol, as Scrooge is only performing in a broadway production of the story, but appearing as as guest star is Gerald McBoing-Boing.

1970--THE ODD COUPLE--"Scrooge gets an Oscar"--Oscar is visited by three ghosts, who take the form of Oscar's poker buddies.

1975--SANFORD AND SON--"Ebenezer Sanford"--Fred Sanford is visited by the three spirits.  (Or was it a dream?)

1980--WKRP IN CINCINATTI--"Bah Humbug"--After eating some brownies he gets from DJ Dr. Johnny Fever, Mr. Carlson is visited by three ghosts.

1981--ALICE--"Mel's Christmas Carol"--Mel is visited by the spirits.

1983--FAMILY TIES--"A Keaton Christmas Carol"--Alex P. Keaton (now of course the republican senator from Ohio) is visited by three spirits who take the form of his family.

Christmas 1986--THE REAL GHOSTBUSTERS (ANIMATED SERIES)--SEASON 1 EPISODE 13 “X-MAS MARKS THE SPOT”--The Ghostbusters walk through some thick fog and are actually transported to Victorian era London where they interrupt the events of the three ghosts teaching Ebenezer Scrooge his lesson about the true meaning of Christmas by capturing the ghosts.  Returning to the present, they find the world a much colder, darker place.  They realize their alteration of the timeline has caused this, and return to the past to set the ghosts free to continue their lesson. This story brings A Christmas Carol into the Television Crossover Universe.  Though a ghost story with spooky moments, I don’t consider the Charles Dickens classic a horror novel.  It’s just too ingrained in my mind as a Christmas tale, that I associate with It’s a Wonderful Life, Rudolph, Frosty, the Grinch, and Charlie Brown.

1988—Michaelangelo #1—“A Christmas Carol”; Jim Lawson--Raphael, annoyed by Christmas cheer, runs off into the night to be alone and cranky; like so many annoyed people on Christmas day, his plans to be alone and cranky are utterly ruined by three ghosts trying to show him the error of his ways. I hardly need to make note that over the course of the story Ralph endures reruns of his childhood, sees his family good-naturedly making fun of him when he’s not around, and sees an insane older version of himself hiding in a swamp. Okay, Scrooge didn’t see that last one.  Eventually Ralph learns the errors of his way, just like everyone else pestered by the Ghosts of Christmas, and wishes his family a “Merry Christmas!”

December 1988--SCROOGED--Santa appears.  (Coming tomorrow will be a blog about the Christmas ghosts of Past, Present, and Future in the TVCU.)

1989--A DIFFERENT WORLD--"For Whom the Jingle Bell Tolls"--Whitney is visited by three ghosts who take on the forms of her friends and teachers.


1993-ish--BEAVIS AND BUTT-HEAD--Bongo Anomaly--Beavis is visited by the three ghosts.

1996--MARTIN--"Scrooge"--Martin is visited by the spirits.

1996--THE SPOOKTACULAR NEW ADVENTURES OF CASPER--"A Christmas Peril/Ms. Banshee's Holiday Hits/Good Morning Dr. Harvey/Fright Before Christmas"--Looniverse--The Three Ghosts appear, as well as other ghosts, of course.

November 2001--FAMILY GUY--"Screwed the Pooch"--Bongo AnomalyAfter Joe tells Peter to find a common ground with Lois’ father, Peter acts upon the advice as if he were Ebenezer Scrooge; he shouts at Bob Cratchit, who’s copying letters in the corner, telling him he has to work through Christmas, like in A Christmas Carol. Cratchit asks, “But, sir, what of Tiny Tim?” Peter responds, “Bah, he and his ukulele shall go wanting”, a reference to Tiny Tim the musician, not Cratchit’s son.  The puppies born with human faces at the Quahog Animal Clinic recalls the pig who looked suspiciously like Herbert Garrison in “An Elephant Makes Love to a Pig” (South Park).  Linda Blair from The Exorcist is at Brian’s trial, and does her famous 360-degree head-turning and vomiting.

2002--AQUA UNIT PATROL SQUAD 1--"Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past From the Future"--A robot that claims to be a ghost from the future (or possibly the past) arrives to lecture Carl and the Aqua Teen Hunger Force about how Christmas was celebrated in the past (or possibly the future).

December 2003--HEBREW HAMMER--One of the other dimensional tulpa variants of Santa is killed by his evil son, who wants to destroy Chanukah.  The Jewish Justice League (not to be confused with that other Justice League) sends the Hebrew Hammer to save Chanukah.  The Hammer's office is down the hall from Mike Hammer's, though probably not the original Mike Hammer but a relative.  Also, Santa's son has an evil henchman who appears to be young Tiny Tim from Dickens' A CHRISTMAS CAROL all grown up, and not such a good person.

2003--AQUA UNIT PATROL SQUAD 1--"The Last One"--The robot ghost returns.

December 2004--KARROLL’S CHRISTMAS (FILM)--Ever since he was humiliated in public by his girlfriend on Christmas, Allen Karrol has come to hate Christmas.  He also hates his mean neighbor Zed Rosecog.  On Christmas Eve, Allen gets visited first by Jacob Marley, then by the ghosts of Christmas Present, Past, and Future.  The problem is they went to the wrong address.  They were to visit Mr. Rosecog, and thus show Allen Mr. Rosecog’s present, past and future Christmases.  Despite this, Allen still learns a lesson about the Christmas spirit, and how his own life has been intertwined with his neighbor.  The film indicates that the original Dickens novel happened, and visits by three ghosts is a regular thing, but that the job is not always done by the same three ghosts.  The Jacob Marley is not the same from A Christmas Carol.  This one was related to Bob Marley.  One of the ghosts references other ghosts he knows, including the Headless Horseman, Scooby-Doo, and Casper.  The Legend of Sleepy Hollow is already in.  Is Scooby dead?  Yes, kids.  In the Television Crossover Universe, Scooby is dead.  In fact, he was eaten in the film Slither. This crossover brings in Casper, the Friendly Ghost, but which version?  Though I’m sure the implication is the cartoon version, there’s no solid in-story evidence to verify that.  Therefore, my assumption is to consider this a reference to the version from the live action films.  The first Casper film had a crossover with Ghostbusters, and thus is already solidly in the Television Crossover Universe.  A ghost also makes a reference in which he compares himself to Freddy Krueger.  Though that could be a pop culture reference or a reference to a real person, in this instance, since this film has already been demonstrated to fit in the Television Crossover Universe, we should just assume that this is indeed a reference to the Springwood Slasher.

2005--AQUA UNIT PATROL SQUAD 1--"Deleted Scenes"--The robot ghost returns.

2006--AMERICAN DAD--"The Best Christmas Story Never"--Bongo Anomaly--A new ghost of Christmas past, whose last job was a tooth fairy, brings Stan back to his childhood to teach him the true meaning of Christmas.  Stan bolts, realizing that this is his opportunity to kill Jane Fonda before she ruins everything. Needless to say, a divergent timeline is created where the Soviets rule modern America.  (Hey, is this the Red Dawn timeline?)  Eventually, things are set right.

2010--THE SUITE LIFE ON DECK--"A London Carol"--Rather than three ghosts, London's mirror does the job.  (And I just threw in another Disney show.  Take that!!!)

2012--THE HIGH FRUCTOSE ADVENTURES OF THE ANNOYING ORANGE--"Orange Carol"--Looniverse--When it comes to animated stuff, it's really getting hard for me to keep track of what hasn't been connected yet.  But if it's on Cartoon Network, it's usually safe to say it's in the Looniverse or the TVCU.  In this case, I'm betting the Looniverse.  Anyways, the Annoying Orange gets visited by the three ghosts.

April 2013--RAISING HOPE--"Arbor Daze"--Crossover with A Christmas Carol of sorts.

2013—Deadpool Killustrated; Cullen Bunn, Matteo Lolli, Sean Parsons, and Veronica Gandini

One of the infinite Deadpools in the infinite multiverse has a problem.

He knows he's fictional. He's a puppet dancing at the edge of a pen, colorist's brush tickling his funny places.

So he sets out, guns and swords and insanity and incredibly awful one-liners in tow, to kill every fictional universe, and keep on killing every fictional universe, until he arrives at Earth Zero and can murder every last writer. So it goes. We find him at the far end of the Marvel multiverse, having carved and shot and exploded his way from somewhere near the center out to the fringes. He forces captive mad scientists to make him a portal into the next multiverse over. As he leaves, he murders them with a pre-prepared trap.

But before they die, the mad scientists send a distress signal through the portal. It arrives in 1895 London, where it is swiftly brought to 221b Baker Street. The Holmes tulpa quickly gets the signal in order; and discovers that a madman is out, killing the universe. Because, as Deadpool thinks, killing the Commonwealth--or, as he calls it, the "Ideaverse"--will wipe away every character inspired by the tulpa.

Therefore, killing Mowgli prevents the existence of Tarzan and Ka-Zarr; or murdering the Little Meremaid prevents Namor. It's incredibly unlikely, but other kind of plan would you expect Deadpool to concoct?

While's he's out and about, killing everything you ever loved, Holmes fetches The Time Traveller's time machine. He and the Watson tulpa collect their own team to hunt down Deadpool: Beowulf, the monster-killer; Natty Bumpo, the tracker, Hua Mulan, the warrior; and the ever-trusty Dr. John H. Watson. 

During this time, Deadpool implants one of his alternate personalities in Frankenstein's monster.

Holmes and his hunters track Deadpool all across the Commonwealth; finally, they confront him in 1627 Paris, over the corpses of the Three Musketeers. A fight ensues. Beowulf dies at the hands of Frankenstein's Monsters, which Watson then guns down. Deadpool steals the time machine, planning to deal a final blow to the Commonwealth. Holmes clambers aboard himself, and the two battle as spacetime passes them by. Just as Moriarty before him, Deadpool is thrown far away into the void of space.

The Commonwealth, however, is mortally wounded. No-one remembers the stories as they were. Things break apart, break down, like a wound allowed to fester. All that can repair it is memory. And so Holmes begins to recite, from memory, every altered story...

"My father's family name being Pirrip, and my Christian name Philip, my infant tongue could make of both names nothing longer or more explicit than Pip. So, I called myself Pip, and came to be..."

The Commonwealth begins to heal.

Deadpool murders, in order:  Don Quixote and Sancho, Moby Dick, Pinocchio (who was inside Moby Dick's belly), Ismael (from Moby Dick), Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Fin, Dracula and his brides, the Headless Horseman (in reality, Brom Bones), the Little Women, Ebenezer Scrooge and the Ghost of Christmas Future, Dr. Frankenstein, Dr. Moreau and his ani-men, the entire island of Lilliput, Julius Caesar and all of his murderers, the wonderfully heroic Kaa, Baloo Mowgil, and Baghera, the entire crew of the Hispaniola (from Treasure Island), Captain Ahab, Captain Nemo, and the Little Mermaid, Scylla and Charybdis, the three witches (from Macbeth), the narrator and the Raven (from Poe's "The Raven"), Dorian Grey, Gregor Samsa (from Kafka's The Metamorphosis), The Three Musketeers (and D'artagnan), Natty Bumpo, and, lastly, Beowulf.

With the universe restored, all of Deadpool's murders are undone and the stories resume their natural course.

Sometimes in a future--A JETSONS CHRISTMAS CAROL--Mr. Spacely, head of Spacely Sprockets and boss of George Jetson, gets visited by the ghosts.

ALTERNATE REALITIES:  Mickey Mouse, the Looney Tunes gang, Mr. Magoo, The Flintstones, The Jetsons, Sesame, Dennis the Menace and Doctor Who have all but homaged, spoofed and lampooned the famous Charles Dickens Christmas story, A Christmas Carol. (Mister Magoo's Christmas Carol, A Special Sesame Street Christmas, Bugs Bunny's Christmas Carol, Mickey's Christmas Carol, A Jetson Christmas Carol, Blackadder's Christmas Carol, The Muppet Christmas Carol, A Flintstones Christmas Carol, An All Dogs Christmas Carol, Winnie the Pooh: Springtime with Roo, Bah, Humduck! A Looney Tunes Christmas, A Dennis the Menace Christmas and Doctor Who in: A Christmas Carol respectively)

LOONIVERSE--From Thomas Paul Jennings:  Apparently the design of (An American Tail) Fievel's father was from the chairman of the Rescue Aid Society in Disney's The Rescurers. Also some mice that appeared in The Rescuers make appearances in The Great Mouse Detective which itself shares a Lizard with Alice in Wonderland and has the same Big Ben chime as Mickey's Christmas Carol.

MUPPET UNIVERSE--As I've said before, everything is real somewhere.  Even fiction within fiction.  The Muppets exist in the TVCU.   But many of them are actors, and they make movies.  In the TVCU, they are just fictional movies, but in the MUPPET UNIVERSE, they are real.  This includes, (but is not limited to) CinderElmo,  the Muppet Christmas Carol, Muppet Treasure Island, the Muppets' Wizard of Oz, Muppet Classic Theater,  Tales from Muppetland:  The Frog Prince, and Elmos' Musical Adventure:  Peter and the Wolf.

RICH LITTLE UNIVERSE:  Kind of like Skitlandia, except there are movies, and Rich Little plays all the characters.  Edith Bunker appears in Rich Little's 1978 CHRISTMAS CAROL.

Note there are many film adaptations of A Christmas Carol, and each gets its own reality.  Additionally, there have been many sequels both in print and on screen (and in radio and on stage for that matter).  Though I'd love to count them all, the fact is, so many contradict each other, that I'd have to choose which ones are in and I'd likely do so with bias, so it's best to keep them all in separate realities until a cross can bring them in.

Tuesday, January 1, 2013

The Avengers (No, not those guys from New York)

Day 2 of celebrating our fourth anniversary, and I represent our 9th most popular blog post.  I was very surprised to see this get so many views, and I hope it's because of the show itself and not readers confusion with the Marvel movies.  It's also nice thathis being one of our more popular posts, it is also a more recent post, having been written on January 1, 2013, just as we were celebrating our 2 year anniversary.


Though not a horror series, the Avengers get a few crossover references in my upcoming book, the Horror Crossover Encyclopedia, on sale...SOON!


Hi.  So, welcome to the TVCU 2013.  A few things.

I' m writing a book, sort of a spin-off of this blog called the Horror Crossover Universe.  So I'm spending less time here.  But I will be posting new material, and James has some stuff in the works as well.  Some of the blogs will have major revisions, while others just need to have some new material added to it.

The Crossovers Forum is no longer the best place to discuss this blog, as I'm not there as much anymore. I've created a new forum just for this blog, which can be found here.

I know my last blog said my next one would be about Scrooge, but that one will be coming later on down the road.  Sorry if you were looking forward to it.

I've been writing this blog for two years now.  January 10 will be the blog's 2nd anniversary.  I've covered lots of ground and lots of varied material, and along the way, I've had some help from James, Gordon, and Brad to expand the universe.  I'd love some feedback from readers of this blog on what shows and film series you'd love to see covered here in 2013.  You can leave your comments in the section below this blog, or in the forum I provide the link for above.

Now, on to the Avengers...


No, this isn't about Marvel's "world's mightiest mortals".  This is about that cool duo from jolly ol' England saving the world as super spies.**

1769 to 1821--G.I. JOE # 50 & 73/SERPENTOR'S FILECARD--"The Battle of Springfield/Divided We Fall"--Life of Napoleon Bonaparte, whose DNA will be used to create Serpentor.  Napoleon also appeared in THE AVENGERS, THE TIME TUNNEL, I DREAM OF JEANNIE, THE PRISONER, BEWITCHED, TIME BANDITS, BILL & TED''S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE, MARRIED WITH CHILDREN, and BLACKADDER BACK & FORTH.

1934--JOHN STEED: AN AUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY, VOLUME 1: JEALOUS IN HONOUR--While in school, Steed is bullied constantly by James Bond, his classmate.

November 1952--BEWITCHED--"Samantha's French Pastry"--Uncle Arthur accidentally pulls Napoleon from the past.  Napoleon has also appeared on THE AVENGERS, THE TIME TUNNEL, I DREAM OF JEANNIE, THE PRISONER, TIME BANDITS, THE NEVER SAY U.N.C.L.E. AFFAIR, MARRIED WITH CHILDREN, and BLACKADDER:  BACK AND FORTH.

1958--LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN:  BLACK DOSSIER--Though League takes place in a divergent timeline, there is no reason that some elements from this series can't also be part of the main TVCU timeline.  In this case, this volume of League shows that "M" of British Secret Service (as seen in JAMES BOND novels and films) is also "Mother", the head of the Avengers.  A young Emma Peel also appears in this story.


1960--THE AVENGERS--Agent John Steed begins working with Dr. David Keel and The Avengers are formed. Over the years, Steed will work with Cathy Gale, Emma Peel, and Tara King, as well as Mike Gambit and Purdey (The New Avengers).

1961--THE AVENGERS--With Dr David Keel (Ian Hendry).

1962–64--THE AVENGERS--With Venus Smith (Julie Stevens) and Cathy Gale (Honor Blackman).

1965--THE AVENGERS (FILM)--Emma Peel becomes Steed's newest partner. This film "remake" actually works well as a "prequel" instead.

1965–68--THE AVENGERS--With Emma Peel (Diana Rigg).

1966 to 1969--THE AVENGERS--The ongoing adventures of some super cool spies.


May 1967--THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E.--"The Rainbow Affair"--U.N.C.L.E. agents Solo and Kuryakin meet Steed and Peel of THE AVENGERS, as well as Inspector Roger West, Sir Denis Nayland Smith, Fu Manchu, Simon Templar (aka The Saint), Miss Marple, Father Brown, and Sherlock Holmes (aka William Escott). James Bond is also referenced, along with an enemy of the Saint.  Also this book reveals that Department Z founded U.N.C.L.E.  For more information on The Avengers and an episode guide, see The Complete Avengers, by Dave Rogers, St. Martin's Press, 1989.

February 1968--THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E.--"The Power Cube Affair"--Solo and Kuryakin of U.N.C.L.E. meet Charles, the former head of the AVENGERS.

1968--GET SMART--"Run, Robot, Run"--Two evil British agents are posing as Steed and Peel.

1968–69--THE AVENGERS--With Tara King (Linda Thorson)

July 16 - 19, 1969--SUBTERRANEAN “MOON MOON MOON”  (NOVELLA BY KIM NEWMAN)--Was there some sort of occult connection to the Apollo 11 moon landing?  Richard Jeperson of the Diogenes Club will work with the FBI’s Unnameables Section to find out. The Diogenes Club originates from Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes, but has more recently had a “spin-off” series created by Kim Newman.  One member of the club is the Bishop of Brichester.  Brichester is from Ramsey Campbell’s continuation of the Cthulhu Mythos.  Kate Reed is another member of the club.  She was a character who was created by Bram Stoker for Dracula but her scene was later removed before publication.  Edwin Winthrop and Genevieve Dieudonne are also members.  Reed, Winthrop and Dieudonne all appeared in Newman’s Anno Dracula series, which is an alternate universe where the timeline diverged during the events of Dracula.  The Anno Dracula Universe must be a divergent timeline of the Television Crossover Universe, and these three appearing in this story are the counterparts of this main TVCU timeline.  The Department of Queer Complaints is mentioned, which is from the series of the same name by Carter Dickson.  Besides the Diogenes Club and the members who have counterparts in the Anno Dracula Universe, there are several other crossovers scattered within the story that connect this story to other Newman stories, which is typical of a Newman story.  One character in the story is referred to as the “girl from A.U.N.T.I.E”, which at the very least is meant to be a sarcastic reference to the agency U.N.C.L.E. and the the spin-off of the Man from U.N.C.L.E. called The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.  Additionally,there was an episode of the Avengers entitled The Girl from A.U.N.T.I.E. where A.U.N.T.I.E. was meant to actually be U.N.C.L.E. but changed to avoid real world copyright infringement.  Thus, in this story, A.U.N.T.I.E. may actually mean U.N.C.L.E. as a nod to the Avengers.  During the tale, Cavorite is mentioned as a possible alternative to rocketry for visiting the moon, a reference that makes the events of H.G. Wells’ The First Men in the Moon as real for the Television Crossover Universe.  A magic portal to the moon is compared to other real portals to Wonderland and Narnia.  That would mean that the Earth events of Alice in Wonderland and the Chronicles of Narnia were the Earth of the Television Crossover Universe, and Wonderland and Narnia are magical pocket dimensions connection to the TVCU.  Also mentioned are Count Cagliostro and Cordwainer Bird, who are not counted as crossovers.  Both are fictionalized versions of real persons.   Of course, Cagliostro is a vampire in the TVCU.  Bird is the alias used by author Harlan Ellison.

Winter 1972--TALES OF THE SHADOWMEN VOLUME 3:  DANSE MACABRE--"A Day in the Life of Madame Atomos"--Like all stories in the Tales of the Shadowmen series, this one is loaded with crossovers.  Of course, the appearance of the Pink Panther diamond is why I'm talking about it, but other crossovers are:  FU MANCHU, THE AVENGERS, BOB MORANE, THE DA VINCI CODE, JERRY CORNELIUS, MEPHISTA, TEDDY VERANO, THE PRISONER, VIC ST. VAL, MODESTY BLAISE, MADAME HYDRA, DEREK FLINT, SUMURU, THE NYCTALOPE, THE SAINT, THE BLACK LIZARD, AND MADAME ATOMOS.

1973--DOCTOR WHO--"Verdigris"--Jo Grant, the Doctor's companion, mentions she went to spy school with Tara King of THE AVENGERS.  It has been the contention of mine that Doctor Who is in an alternate reality.  Recently, the Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover confirmed this to be true.  There is tons of evidence placing Avengers into the TVCU, not the Doctor Who Universe.  But Jo Grant is clearly not from the TVCU, but is from the Whoniverse.  Perhaps Avengers has a counterpart in the Whoniverse.

March 14, 1974 - November 9, 1989--HE EUGENICS WARS:  THE RISE AND FALL OF KHAN NOONIEN SINGH, VOLUME ONE (NOVEL BY GREG COX)--Gary Seven is a human agent of aliens with an interest in protecting Earth from itself and Roberta Lincoln is his human assistant.  A secret project has been created to engineer supermen.  One particular product, Khan Noonien Singh, rises above the rest, and makes an attempt at world conquest. Gary Seven and Khan were both introduced in separate episodes of Star Trek, both having originated in the 20th century.  Gary Seven’s appearance was meant to be a pilot for his own series which sadly never came to be.  Khan was said to have conquered a quarter of the planet by the 1990s in the Eugenics Wars, an event that eventually of course never came to pass in the real world, so this is a wonderful story reconciling how it could have still happened without drastically altering the real world timeline from Star Trek’s history of our time period.  In the story, Roberta refers to an encounter with robot housewives in Connecticut, a reference to the events of the Stepford Wives.  One of the workers at the Eugenics Project is a sallow bug-eyed man called Mr. Eyegor.  This is the same Igor (pronounced Eyegor) from Young Frankenstein.  Another worker is Maggie Erickson, engaged to a man named Walsh.  Which means eventually she would take his name and become Maggie Walsh.  In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Maggie Walsh is the head of a project that creates super soldiers to capture demons, which she uses to create her ultimate super-soldier, Adam.  There is also a reference to Frankenstein, as in the original version.  Other crossovers in the book include:  Avengers (TV), Six Million Dollar Man; The Pretender; Beauty and the Beast (80s TV); Bionic Woman; Star Trek:  The Next Generation; Modesty Blaise; Knight Rider; The Equalizer. One final issue to bring up is regarding future stories.  There are several stories linked to the Television Crossover Universe that take place in the future.  Star Trek and Alien are both in.  Plus, there are plenty of others.  But ST and Alien are the main two.  And they are both pretty different in portraying how events of the future unfold.  (Most of the other stories can easily fit in one of those main two timelines).  I like to think of a timeline as one in which at any point, there is always a now.  Looking backwards, there’s only one history.  But looking forward, there is an infinite number of possibilities and thus an infinite number of future timelines, all that branch off of the present day Television Crossover Universe.

Summer 1977--ROVER # 6--"Acid Test"--Upon retirement John Steed of THE AVENGERS is taken to the Village, where he is reunited with Mrs. Emma Peel.  He also recognized No. 2, as John Drake.  However, John Drake didn't snap and turn evil after the dismantling of the last Village.  He has been brainwashed.  Steed and Peel help restore Drake to sanity and the three try to escape.  However, only the former AVENGERS manage to escape while Drake is captured and reassigned as Number 6 in this new Village.

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1978--THE NEW AVENGERS--More adventures of those super cool spies.

October 1978--THE HARDY BOYS/NANCY DREW MYSTERIES--Joe and Frank Hardy go to London to find their missing father, but when Frank goes missing as well, Joe has to seek help from a member of British Intelligence.  It's being hinted that the character Patrick Macnee plays is Steed from The Avengers. He's a spy and has his iconic bowler hat and umbrella. But no doubt because of rights to the character, he is simply billed as "S." Andrew Brook adds:  There's a book about "The Avengers" (no, not that one) which postulates that the entire television series was filmed live at real events. It ends up pretty much suggesting that anybody Patrick Macnee played subsequently was really Steed, but I don't remember reading about this one before -

1983--THE MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E.--"The Fifteen Years Later Affair"--Sir John Raleigh, the new head of U.N.C.L.E.'s New York headquarters, bears an uncanny resemblance to John Steed of The Avengers.  James Bond also appears, meeting with Solo.

October to November 1987--THE PRISONER:  SHATTERED VISAGE--A retired agent is sent to the Village, which is weird.  They send her to the abandoned one that is no longer operational.  And John Drake is there. He must have escaped the new one and returned to the old one.  Apparently the psychological torture and brainwashing has really messed him up.  John Steed and Emma Peel of THE AVENGERS are seen attending a funeral back in England, and they mention agent GEORGE SMILEY.  At this point, Steed has taken a new alias as Sir John Raleigh and is now running things as a MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E.

January 1989--ACTION COMICS WEEKLY # 636--In DC Comics Universit√© Notre Dame des Ombres (French: Our Lady of the Shadows University) is a special university in France which was attended by the Crimson Fox twins and Dee Tyler (Phantom Lady).  Sandra Knight, the original Phantom Lady, became the dean of this School in her later years. She may have been an 'old girl' herself, as was the English girl Emma Knight, daughter of Sir John Knight, who went on to become an agent herself in the 1960s as Mrs. Emma Peel (see Action Comics Weekly #636).  Records of other graduates are still classified as "Top Secret", but given the school's location and 200 year history, it is possible that other female spies may well have passed through the doors of this fabled institution, including such as agents known under the code names of Sandra of the Secret Service, Mademoiselle Marie and Madame Zero. Obviously, given the nature of these ladies' line of work, any form of verification is impossible.  Action Comics Weekly #641 reveals that the future Diana Tyler, mother of the second Phantom Lady, was connected to the college until the mid 1960's, although she may well have been a tutor rather than a trainee agent.

May 15, 1991 (Setting is era of the Seventh Doctor and companions Ace and Ria, as well as the Fourth and Sixth Doctors, but otherwise indeterminate; there is also a future incarnation of the Doctor who has not yet debuted officially)--DOCTOR WHO MAGAZINE # 173 “PARTY ANIMALS” (MARVEL UK)--The Doctor and his companions attend a birthday party on a planet within a time vortex. The future Doctor was visually based on the actor who played the Doctor in radio dramas.  A later story would show the Eighth Doctor regenerate into this future Doctor, only to turn out to be incarnation, only to have been an illusion.  Since this party does occur within a time vortex, we can assume each of the crossover characters came from the time period they originate from. Crosses:  Doctor Strange; Captain Britain; The Simpsons; Sapphire & Steel; Star Trek:  The Next Generation; Axel Pressbutton; Hulk (Comic); Fantastic Four; Timespirits; Dan Dare; Avengers (Television Series); Rocket Raccoon; X-Factor; X-Men; Sub-Mariner; Thor (Comics); Spider-Man; Conan the Barbarian; Death’s Head

1996--DUKE NUKEM 3D--Seen in a locker room is Steed's classic umbrella and bowler hat, along with his name, J. Steed.

September 1996 to February 1997--MARRIED WITH CHILDREN--"Damn Bundys"--Al Bundy makes a deal with the Devil to play in the NFL, but on the day of the Super Bowl, the Devil comes to collect Al's soul, and sentences him to an eternity of spending time only with his family and his neighbors, the D'Arcys.  Napoleon also appears.  Napoleon has also appeared on THE AVENGERS, THE TIME TUNNEL, I DREAM OF JEANNIE, THE PRISONER, TIME BANDITS, THE NEVER SAY U.N.C.L.E. AFFAIR, BEWITCHED, and BLACKADDER:  BACK AND FORTH.

March 3, 1997--SPY GAME--"Why Spy?"--From Toby O'Brien:  Patrick Macnee and Peter Lupus in the pilot episode of 'Spy Game'. It's suggested that as retired spies, they're appearing as John Steed and Willie Armitage (of 'The Avengers' and 'Mission: Impossible', respectively).  Brad Mengel added:  Hi Robert, There's this Mr Black (Steed) and Mr White (Willy Armitage) report the death of an agent to E.C.H.O. (Emergency Counter Hostilities Organisation) which causes the pairing of Lorne Cash and Max London. Kelly Robinson is seen at the end of the episode threatening to blow up Statue of Liberty in what is probably a training exercise E.C.H.O is later revealed to have their headquarters in the old U.N.C.L.E. headquarters under Del Florino's tailor shop which the agents call Uncle Solo's (Why Spy? -SPY GAME TV series 1997).  So Spy Game connects The Avengers, Mission: Impossible and The Man and The Girl from UNCLE and possibly I Spy.  Brad

Summer 2000--THE INVISIBLE MAN--"A Sense of Community"--Darien Fawkes and Bobby Hobbes are taken to a new American version of the Village called the Community.  Fawkes sees John Steed of THE AVENGERS and also learns that JAMES BOND is also real.  (He's not there, but a woman there knows him.)

2009--LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN:  CENTURY--As stated earlier, LEOG is a divergent timeline, but some elements may still be incorporated.  In 2009, Emma Peel is now M, head of British Secret Service, and now resembles M as portrayed by Judy Dench in recent JAMES BOND films, which may bring at least those later films into the TVCU.

2269 A.D.--ASSIGNMENT: ETERNITY (NOVEL BY GREG COX)--Gary Seven and his partner Roberta Lincoln travel from the year 1969 to the 23rd century and once more encounter the crew of the Enterprise, commanded by Captain James T. Kirk. This novel is a sequel to the Star Trek episode Assignment Earth, which introduced Gary Seven in what was meant to be a pilot for his own series.  Gary and his assistant mention having knowledge of the people or events from all of the following crosses.  Crosses:  Kolchak the Night Stalker; The Avengers (television); The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.; The Questor Tapes; Mission Impossible; James Bond; The Prisoner; The Andromeda Strain.

**Incidentally, those other Avengers will be covered later this year when I expand the Hulk blog to an Avengers blog.