Tuesday, January 7, 2014

Remakes and Reboots: A TVCU Quickie

What's a quickie?  See this blog.

Today, after hearing the news of Murder She Wrote reboot series, I decided today is the day to tackle the subject quickly.

There are multiple ways in which I can handle a reboot or remake, and the below mini-chron will demonstrate some that I've used in the past.

Sometimes I can make it fit into the same canon as the original version, if it's just different enough. However, it's too close to the events of the original, I have to assume it to be in an alternate timeline where things happened differently, and perhaps the characters were born in a different time period.

Thanks to the A Nightmare on Elm Street and Star Trek reboots, we have some evidence to support that notion of an alternate reality/divergent timeline for reboots.  In Wes Craven's New Nightmare, we find that the demons that gave Freddy of the original series his powers came from the real world, and soon, Wes retraps them by expanding the franchise, returning the demons to the world of fiction.  Thus, that must include the reboot.

In Star Trek (the new movie), Spock of the original series travels back in time along with some bad guy Romulans, altering the timeline.  Thus the reboot series is part of a divergent timeline.

For the most part, out of simplicity, I've placed most remakes and reboots in a divergent timeline called the TVCU2.  When the remakes gets another remake, I have to get creative, and come up with more original ideas, like TVCU3 or TVCU4.

A great place to talk about remakes and reboots is in the TVCU Forum.  Come join the discussion.

TVCU Mini-Chron:

1853--THE MASK OF ZORRO--Diego trains Alejandro Murieta to become the next Zorro.

1886—Alice in Wonderland (2010 film)
The few remaining free Wonderlandians struggle to find Alice Liddell to help them in the losing war against the new Red Queen. While searching England, the White Rabbit finds Alice Kingsleigh and mistakes her for Liddell; despite being entirely unprepared (mentally and physically) for what the Wonderlandians need, she manages to gain victory. The Jabberwock is slain once more. Kingsleigh never returned to Wonderland.

Early 1923 to late 1924--THE MUMMY (1999)--Two competing expeditions go looking for treasure in Hamunaptra, and Evelyn Carnahan unwittingly uses the Book of the Dead to resurrect a sorcerer named Imhotep.  To gain power to rule (or destroy) Earth, Imhotep must kill those who found him, and also wishes to implant the soul of his past lover into Evelyn's body.  Adventurer Rick O'Connell, with the aid of Evelyn's brother Jonathon and Medjai Ardeth Bay, saves Evelyn and destroy the Mummy.

1931--KING KONG (FILM)--A film maker finds out about an undiscovered island and wants to shoot a picture there.  He recruits some actors and they set sail.  They find Skull Island, where the natives are primitive, animals and bugs are giants, and most importantly, they find Kong, who the natives worship.  He is a giant ape, who abducts actress Ann Darrow, whom the natives capture to sacrifice to their god.  Ann is rescued, and Kong is subdued, and brought back to New York for the sake of entertainment.  Turns out, not such a good idea, and the beast escapes, finds Ms. Darrow, and climbs the Empire State Building, only to be shot down. This film and the original film are both in the Horror Crossover Universe, and are the same events from different perspectives.  Though the original film is from 1933, several other sources have placed the film in 1931, under the assumption that the film was made based on a true story.  

1962--THE ADDAMS FAMILY--I'm placing the 1991 film here, in my tradition of making film remakes into prequels.  Just ignore the pop culture and tech references.  Otherwise it fits perfectly.

1970--JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS (FILM)--This is the story that explains how a high school band became famous practically overnight.  The film came out in 2001, but fits in nicely here since in Josie # 45, the band is first formed, then suddenly in the next issue they start travelling the world.  Of course, any references to modern pop culture and technology must be ignored, and use your imagination to replace it with something from that era.  For instance, Carson Daly should be seen as Dick Clark.  Here's a interesting article that links the evil conspiracy that tried to brainwash our youth with the Illuminati.

1993 to 1999--BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER--Note the series occurs four years earlier than it airs, as it follows the movie.  The show would later air starting in 1997 produced by News Corps, who got their info from mysterious means, but they are represented by Wolfram and Hart after all.  Later, they would get info from documentary footage bought off of Andrew Wells.  The series continued in a comic refered to as Season 8, in which vampires go public and are adored by the public.  This breaks a major law of the nature of the reality of the TVCU.  This comic series occurs in the TVCU2, which also includes the same events of the TV serie, but occurring at the same time the episodes aired.

1995--CASPER--TELEVISION CROSSOVER UNIVERSE--A father and daughter move into a house haunted by Casper and the Ghostly Trio.  Though this film could fit into a shared reality with the cartoons, the later sequels contradict the prior canon.  The crossovers in this film regardless place this in the TVCU, as both Ray Stanz of the GHOSTBUSTERS and Father Guido Sarducci from SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE try to rid the house of the ghosts, but fail.  FATHER GUIDO SARDUCCI--Besides his appearances on SNL, he has appeared on GILDA LIVE, BECOME AN ARTIST, SQUARE PEGS, ON LOCATION:  THE COMEDY STORE'S 11TH ANNIVERSARY SHOW, JOAN RIVERS AND FRIENDS SALUTE HEIDI ABROMOWITZ, FATHER GUIDO SARDUCCI GOES TO COLLEGE, NOT NECCESSARILY THE NEWS, IT'S GARRY SHANDLING'S SHOW, GREAT PERFORMANCES, TALES OF THE CITY, BLOSSOM, THE GORDON ELLIOT SHOW, CASPER, MARRIED WITH CHILDREN, HO HO NOOOOOOO!!!! IT'S MR. BILL'S CHRISTMAS SPECIAL, UNHAPPILY EVER AFTER, MAKING TUTTI, SIN CITY SPECTACULAR, THE COLBERT REPORT, and THE RALLY TO RESTORE SANITY AND/OR FEAR.  In this film, we see what Casper looked like when he was alive, and that his last name was McFadden.  Casper seems to have died of pneumonia.  This conflicts with the animated studios and Harvey Comics, in which Casper and his fellow ghosts are born ghosts.  Their parents are ghosts.  They were never human.  Ghost is their species, just as with goblins, trolls, leprechauns or other supernatural species.

1998 to 1999--FANTASY ISLAND--The island is still operational in this series revival, and I do consider it a revival, not a reboot.  Now Mr. Roarke has gotten darker, and his appearance has changed.  He is a being with supernatural powers, and this might explain things.  Though Toby O'Brien has a different idea, which you can check out here, but that's too much speculation for me with not enough evidence to support it.  It seems to me more likely that Mr. Roarke may have made some deal with some supernatural being for immortality, but the fine print said he'd be confined to Fantasy Island for life.  In this new series, we learn a a little more about how the Island operates.  People in need accidentally stumble upon a travel agency, which books trips to Fantasy Island.  Then the files are sent directly from the city to the Island via a pneumatic tube, which isn't really physically possible, so it must be magic.  How are people finding this travel agency?  I believe it's God, or at least the folks that work for God, whether you call them angels or white lighters or the powers that be.  Whatever.  In fact, perhaps Mr. Roarke is actually dead, and is serving his own penance by running the Island.  Perhaps, as Thom Holbrook conjectures here, all the staff from both the 70s/80s show and this one are all dead and serving their penance on the Island.  Wow, pretty deep stuff.   And is it possible that the travel agency is not always in the same place?  That would explain how people from all over America...and the world book trips.  Hey, what if Mr. Roarke was one of the angels that didn't take sides during Lucifer's rebellion, and thus this is his punishment?  OK, now who's wildly speculating?  But we do know that in the new series, it's been hinted that the island itself is the source of Mr. Roarke's powers, and that the longer one stays there, the more they also gain power.  The staff, and Mr. Roarke's adopted daughter (raised on the island) also exhibit powers.  There seems to be some hints this place is indeed some sort of Limbo dimension, with the staff all trapped there.  There are parallels between the new series and Shakespeare's THE TEMPEST.  One of the staff member's is named Ariel.  She is a shape shifter who is much older than she appears, and apparently may have been romantically involved with Mr. Roarke some time in the past.  Note that Harry and Cal are both staff members whose lives were saved by Mr. Roarke...or perhaps their souls were.  It seems that Mr. Roarke rescued them both from death, but it's implied that they actually died, and living on the Island is a way of escaping Hell.  Mr. Roarke seems to have the power to send them there should they disobey him.  Gordon Long also offers this take on Mr. Rourke:  Recently, Kim and I watched a film with Malcolm McDowell playing Merlin. It is called Kids of the Round Table. It is set in the then present-day; released in 1997. It was filmed in Canada but seemed to be set near Albany, New York. Excalibur appears in the film.  Because this predates the second Fantasy Island series, I wondered if this Merlin (and there are so, so many) became the second Roarke. Both Kim and I are convinced there are two Roarkes. Now, I don't have a problem with this second Roarke having been Merlin in the past. And it won't mess up Toby's Gallifreyan origins of Roarke, because in at least one alternate timeline---seen in the Doctor Who episode Battlefield with the Seventh Doctor, also starring Jean Marsh as Morgan Le Fay/Morgaine (who also appeared as Mombi in the Disney Return to Oz, which has a magic mirror that this Ozma was enchanted into, and evil witch Queen Bavmorda in Willow)---the Doctor himself became Merlin. So I think that the second Roarke is one of the Merlins and one of the alternate Doctors. However, you can easily interpret this Doctor/Merlin/Roarke as being all one entity. Allowing the original Roarke to be a Doctor and a Merlin explains his longevity and a possible reason why his love Elizabeth Bathory wanted to be immortal---to be with Roarke/Merlin/The Doctor forever.

2003 to 2004--L.A. DRAGNET--Featuring the original Joe Friday's nephew, also named Joe Friday (and who would be cousin to Ms. Tree), last seen in the Dragnet movie.

2005--BEWITCHED--Isabel Bigalow is a witch who wants to live as a mortal, to the objections of her father.  She ends up discovered by actor Jack Wyatt.  He is making a remake of the television series.  Most people assume the original show was fictional, but in reality it was a production created by Uncle Arthur and Serena.  Isabel agrees and falls for Jack.  Eventually he falls for her too.  Interestingly, Isabel's Aunt Clara is presumed to be Samantha's aunt Clara.  The actress who plays Endora turns out to be a witch, Uncle Arthur shows up to show Jack why he's a jackass and should pursue his love for Isabel, and even Samantha appears in the form of a Samantha Stevens figure from the merchandising from the original show.  Interestingly, Samantha has taken this form, but will six years later (if you believe it) appear as a remote control.  In the end, the two marry, and end up actually moving into the Steven's old home, where Abner and Gladys Kravitz seem to be still living there across the street.

2005 to Present--THE OFFICE (U.S)--After his fame has come and gone, David Brent produces an American version of the reality show he was featured on.  This time an office is chosen as the Scranton office of the Dunder-Mifflin Paper Company.  Though it seems that the show hasn't yet aired, it's unlikely a show would film this long without airing.  And in fact there is evidence which we'll see later that shows that the show is indeed a hit.  In multiple episodes, characters can be seen wearing undershirts and sweatshirts from the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pioneers, an Arena Football team in the Arena Football League.  For same actor theorists, remember that Creed on the Office is played by himself. Not just using the same name. Both were in the Grass Roots. Though technically, the Creed on the Office killed the original one, but it would have been prior to the Grass Roots. Creed has led a crazy life of lies and deceptions with many aliases and has acquired many unique skills. For those who employ same actor, one might consider all the roles he's played as being this same man. That includes the "man entering laboratory" on Kolchak, the unnamed man on Eight is Enough, the carnival ticket taker in Mask, a court clerk in the Wonderful World of Disney, a U.S. Marshall named "Jones" in U.S. Marshals: Waco & Rhinehart, a subway worker in Seven Hours to Judgement, a guard at Neon City, a gas station attendant in Secret Sins of the Father, and then note after 1994, there is a 10 year gap in his roles before the office, which is probably when he got hired by Ed Truck and started working at Dunder-Mifflin.  Creed Bratton (of the Office) was REALLY also a member of the 60s rock band called the Grass Roots, whom I saw a few years ago in concert in Boston. So that makes a crossover between me and the Office?  For more on the weirdness of Creed, see http://www.nbc.com/the-office/creed-thoughts/.

2006--THE PINK PANTHER--If sellers and Martin were the same age as their characters, then the younger clouseau would be 20 years younger than the older. Back in those days, it was very likely one came from a large family. So my theory is that Jacques had at least an older brother. We know jacques fought in the resistance, and this probably was the cause of his move from the country to the city and work in law enforcement. Meanwhile following the war his brother remained in the country having a family with at least one son who was named after his uncle. 

The younger Jacques must have grown up hearing of his uncle's exaggerated greatness. His uncle was an inspector, traveling the world chasing the phantom while married to an extremely beautiful woman. Of course the young nephew wanted to enter law enforcement as well, but alas it took him much longer to rise up than his uncle who became chief inspector and saved the world.

Note that I haven't seen all panther films yet, including the ones with clouseau's son, so I don't know of that affects my theory.  Note also the Clouseau meets British agent 006, and Clouseau says the means he's one step from the big time, meaning he knows about James Bond.  It's clear that Bond is a real person in this reference.

2008-1985—Turtles Forever (TV movie)

Yes, you read that right; this story begins in 2008 and moves backward chronologically until it intersects the Crisis on Infinite Earths. There are three entirely separate groups of Turtles present in this movie, so for the sake of clarity we shall refer to them as the TVCU Turtles, the Reboot Turtles, and the Prime Turtles (though as far as the omniverse cosmology goes, that term is doubtful).

Somehow, the TVCU Turtles along with their Shredder and Krang the Brain have ended up in the darker and grittier Reboot Turtles universe—where all of the citizens have no clue what to make of their lighter-hearted pizza-loving alternates. As events unfold, the TVCU Shredder awakens a frozen “squid thing” that happens to be his counterpart in the Reboot Universe. The “squid thing” is Ch'rell, an immortal from an alien race; Ch’rell then has the inspiration to destroy all of the universes so that he can finally find rest.

2008--INCREDIBLE HULK--This Hulk is Bruce Banner.  The one concept I still carry over from Dennis Power is that David and Bruce are cousins.  The comic book version exists in a divergent timeline, but this film is in the TVCU, even the Hulk battle in the city.  The events of this film happen concurrently with the events of Iron Man 2 and Thor.  Tony Stark appears in The Stinger in The Incredible Hulk (the 2008 one) to comment on those events.  Captain America's shield appears in an alternate opening sequence to The Incredible Hulk (see here).

2008—“Friendship is Magic” parts 1 and 2 
So. This is a show about magical ponies who go on magical adventures. This is the pilot. Here, Twilight Sparkle and her secretary midget-dragon (*sigh* baby-dragon) Spike travel to the city of Ponyville for the grand festivities. Things go wrong. An evil-princess, Nightmare Moon, returned from her exile on the moon and engaged in an attempt to take over all the world and plunge it into darkness. By the end of the episode, of course, she reforms and becomes the friendly Princess Luna. Doctor Whooves appears in the background several times. Knowing him, he likely had a vital hand—er, hoof—in insuring this adventure had a happy ending. 

July 2008--FRIDAY THE 13TH--More teens are slaughtered by Jason.  Even though this is meant as a reboot, in my opinion it fits in just fine as a sequel. Crazy Ivan said... With this in mind, I then put the new F13 movie in that same month (it had to be in the summer, so it should have been before the Feb 09 release), and I assume that the characters Clay Miller (played by Jared Padalecki) is actually Sam Winchester, who is monster-hunting solo that summer while his brother is in Hell. Sam Winchester uses aliases all the time, and his trip to Crystal Lake could have been to find the daughter of a fellow hunter.  In the TVCU, same actor / same character would be impossible, but there are a few cases where I still support it. Clay Miller is not likely to be a reoccuring character, and his use as a guise for Sam Winchester allows me to fill in part of the time that Sam was hunting monsters alone, so I support it. The only other example I can recall would be Bill Maxwell, the agent who helped Ralph Hinkley use the super-suit. I feel justified in thinking of Bill as an identity used by agent Kelly Robinson.

2009--THE PRISONER--TV mini-series that can fit.  The location is different than the original.  (They keep moving them to avoid being found or else there are multiple Villages.)  The plot is different enough for this to be a different experience of a new Number 6, especially since we don't know the name of this Number 6.

Summer 2010--THE GREEN HORNET--Another of the Reids takes on the mantle of Green Hornet with the aid of another Kato.  (There could be arguments that this film should be an alternate universe, but then was not the 1960s television series meant to be a remake, not a continuation?  But yet a little bit of creativity turned the Green Hornet into a generational hero to explain it away.  And that same generational reasoning is why I include this new film into continuity.  Note that in this film, Kato, who likes to draw, has a picture of Bruce Lee in his sketch book.  Bruce Lee played Kato in the 1960s TV show.  This isn't a "zonk" as I already explained.  In the 1960s, Batman and Robin would watch THE GREEN HORNET on TV, even though they had also worked with them.  The show was just a fictionalized version of the duo.  Additionally, This Britt Reid (though perhaps not his real name) also has a poster of the Lone Ranger on his wall, just as the first Britt Reid did.  The Lone Ranger was the uncle of the first Green Hornet, and thus a relative of this one as well.

2010--A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (REMAKE)--The dream demons apparently abandon Krueger, but are still trapped and prevented from returning to Earth-Prime.  Instead they are redirected to another alternate universe (which I'll dub TVCU2) where they bestow the same powers on the Fred Krueger of this universe.  Note in the video game HIT MAN:  BLOOD MONEY, one of the post-mission newspapers features a headline about a school janitor being burned alive by a lynch mob. Since the school janitor role was added in the remake, and because of the timing of the video game, it must take place in the TVCU2.

2011--THREE STOOGES (2012)--First let me point out that even though it was unintentional on all parties parts, the short where the Stooges have babies, the comic from the 70s featuring the sons of the Stooges, and this film all line up time wise.  I barely had to even do any work at all on this.  So awesome.  So the orphanage is broke, and the Stooges try to raise the money as hired killers, but screw it up.  However, a talent scout sees what he thinks is an act and picks Moe Junior to be on Jersey Shore.  Eventually, the trio reunite, the murder plot they were supposed to help with is foiled by them, the TV money saves the orphanage, and a sick girl.  And Teddy's father is the evil mastermind behind everything, upset that when his wife died, Teddy got the money, not him.  Teddy adopts the sick girl and her brothers, and the boys finally head out for new adventures.

2011 to Present-ONCE UPON A TIME--TELEVISION CROSSOVER UNIVERSE/ENCHANTED FOREST--There are many alternate dimensions whose origins are unknown, but there are many things parallel. One such dimension is the Enchanted Forest, where a different version of fairy tales happened in an ambiguous once upon a time.  However, many of these characters found themselves trapped in the town of Storybrooke, in the TVCU, with amnesia,and apparently not aging, though not aware of it, which is part of a what we para-scholars call a time lock.  Here Belle's Beast was actually Rumplestitlskin, and she is currently being locked up a prisoner of Snow White's step-mother.  Cinderella has also appeared.  Ivan Ronald Schablotski on Once Upon A Time / Disney Animated Universe:  I'm not 100% on the status of the Tooninverse / Looniverse / Toon Town / House of Mouse these days, but I can now safely state that the fairy tale characters in ONCE UPON A TIME originated in a world that parallels the Disney Princess Universe (for lack of a better name), at least geopolitically. This week's episode featured a genie from the land of Agrabah. Agrabah is the home of Disney's animated Aladdin (and Genie), and even if the metafictional House of Mouse is not considered, characters from Aladdin have appeared in-continuity on the Hercules animated series (and in parody form in Drawn Together). And, of course, Aladdin originated in 1001 Arabian Tales, rather than Grimms' Fairy Tales, as most of the characters on Once Upon A Time did. Also, just remember that they eat Apollo candy bars in Storybrook, Maine, so it should be the same reality as SCRUBS and LOST.  Another Lost / Once Upon A Time connection: Emma's car has a Geronimo Jackson bumper sticker. That's a reference to a fictional band whose hit song "Dharma Lady" was featured on LOST.  Also, Emma Swann and Mary Margaret drink MacCutcheon whisky. This is a fictional brand of scotch whisky used throughout the LOST series.  Toby O'Brien adds:  and in the first episode the town clock was stuck at 8:15......I see the numerical sequence as being a crossover since there's something universal about them of great power and significance. 

2013--EVIL DEAD--More teens end up at the cabin and summon the dead.  Ash appears as well.

Late 23rd Century--STAR TREK--TVCU2--Spock from the TVCU and a bunch of bad guy aliens go back in time and cross over to the TVCU2.



2005--THE LONGEST YARD--Apparently the townie is now in prison.


2002--MR. DEEDS--See my comments for Big Daddy.

CINEVERSE--I spent months (really) trying to get the comics, cartoons, and film to work together, but I just couldn't do it.  One of my favorite films (really) takes place here.


The Dark Knight

  • 2002--BATMAN BEGINS--Batman begins his war on crime, but finds two obstacles:  Ra's al Ghul, and the Scarecrow.

LOONIVERSE--Then there is this Tarzan (the first in animation) portrayed by Mel Blanc.  This Tarzan (viewed for about a second in the cartoon) is the Tarzan of the Looniverse.  The Looniverse is a shared reality centered around Bugs Bunny.  Anyone else in the Looniverse is in due to some connection to Bugs Bunny.  The term Looniverse comes from the Superman/Bugs Bunny mini-series.  Next is the Disney animated Tarzan, with Tony Goldwyn.  This Tarzan exists in the Looniverse (yes, even though we already have seen a very different Tarzan.)  The Looniverse is connected by crossovers, but the reality is still constantly shifting.  Briefly, how is Tarzan (from Disney) in the Looniverse?  The animated series House of Mouse has shown that all Disney characters are in the same reality.  And then many Disney characters (including Mickey Mouse) appeared in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? with many Looney Toones character (including Bugs Bunny), and there is your connection.  (Incidentally, the live action portions of Who Framed Roger Rabbit? occur in the  TVCU and I'll explain that another time.)  This movie spun off to a series that is also part of the Looniverse.  A scene in Disney's Tarzan features Mrs. Potts and Chip. They appear as everyday lifeless dinnerware, but upon closer inspection, actually resemble these characters moreover. Ivan Ronald Schablotski argues:  I would think that, just as many of Marvel's stories take place i parallel timelines, so too must some of Disney's properties exist parallel to each other, rather than linearly. The 'Belle' seen in Hunchback of Notre Dame could not be the same one who fell in love with the Beast, and Mrs. Potts was no longer a pot by the time Tarzan met Jane. So yes, I agree that they share a multiverse, but that doesn't have as much bearing as it used to these days, and still leaves the puzzle of finding which properties DO take place in the same universe. James Bojaciuk adds:  In fact, the Kingdom Hearts games are effectively a loosing battle to seal off the different worlds so that the villains--who look and act *exactly* like the Shadow Demons from Crisis on Infinite Earths--cannot enter them. This also prevents anyone else from visiting those worlds without causing an apocalypse.

And, in the final world, the skies are all blood red.

The worlds sealed in Kingdom Hearts 1 are the TVCU (the characters meet both Tarzan), Neverland, Wonderland, Olympus, the Looniverse (from both Ariel's Atlantis, and Monstro's belly), the world of the Final Fantasy games, and Halloween Town. They also seal off Agrabah, but I've yet to figure out what universe that takes place in.  
(Note though James states the Tarzan in question is the TVCU Tarzan, in fact it's his Looniverse counterpart, evidenced by his later appearance in House of Mouse.)


TVCU2--This is the reality of the remake film.  I did try to fit it into the TVCU as a prequel, with the disclaimer to ignore topical stuff and imagine it's the 70s.  But that really doesn't work with my philosophy that it happened as we see it.  Then I later found out that the updated A-Team crossed with the IDW Ghostbusters, which led me to believe that the A-Team fittingly is in the TVCU2, which is where remakes generally go anyways.
  • 2010--THE A-TEAM (FILM)--"In 2010, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team."  The film is certainly the prequel to the series, even though it is set in modern days.  

TELEVISION CROSSOVER UNIVERSE 3 (AKA THE THREEBOOTIVERSE, WHERE SUCH SHOWS LIKE SMALLVILLE EXIST. Note I left off dates. Assume they took place around same time as air dates.)

SCOOBY-DOO!  MYSTERY, INCORPORATED--The series calls their town Crystal Cove rather than Coolsville.  

Scooby doo mystery incorporated poster.jpg

 WHONIVERSE--Caeric ArcLight says:  Made a DVD run at some of the local pawn shops and was reminded of a neat 'crossover.' In the first TRANSFORMERS movie, Travis Van Winkle played an egotistical jerk named Trent. In the FRIDAY THE 13TH remake/reboot/sequel, Travis Van Winkle played an egotistical jerk named Trent.  Rob adds:  Whoah. And in 2007's Transformers he was in high school, and in 2009's Friday, he was in college. What a good catch.  Of course, this is difficult for my TVCU theories, since I place the Friday film as a sequel, and I can't have a world where entire cities are devastated by robots in the TVCU. And even though the TVCU2 is a world of remakes and has lots of cities being devastated in the past decade, which would allow a version of the Friday film that views it as a remake to fit there along with the Transformer films, I've already placed the IDW version in the TVCU2. However, certain connections to the Whoniverse with the film have been made, with some appearances of the film versions of the Transformers existing in the same NFL promo world as other Whoniverse denizens.  The Whoniverse is a great place where alien invasions happen all the time, then the world just forgets about them.

WHONIVERSE--This is the reality of G.I. JOE:  THE RISE OF COBRA and G.I. JOE: RETALIATION.  And the Doctor shows up in a prequel comic just to help me find the right place to put this.

Toby O'Brien discusses remakes in Toobworld here.

Thom Holbrook's Poobala covers pretty much every TV remake here.


Here are some of the more recent posts regarding remakes and reboots in the TVCU discussion forum.

Saw a preview for the new Evil Dead "remake", which seems to be different enough to be a sequel, and they do use the same "cabin in the woods". The film is produced by Bruce Campbell.

"Murder She Wrote" (which had at least one crossover, of course) is to be rebooted, perhaps - http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/news/a526246/murder-she-wrote-reboot-with-octavia-spencer-in-the-works-at-nbc.html


Bonus.  Here are some remake and reboot related entries from my upcoming book, the Horror Crossover Universe!

Release Date:  April - July 1922 (Contemporary Setting)
Series:  Lovecraft’s Cthulhu Mythos
The Story:  Mad scientist finds a way to reanimate life, but with a cost.
HCU Comments:  This story is notable for introducing Miskatonic University in Arkham, MA.  Both the school and the town will reappear in many of Lovecraft’s tales, and the expanded universe created from Lovecraft’s stories.  Herbert West will later be the subjects of movies and comics that cannot be the same fellow.  The film remakes the original story but in a modern setting (the 1980s), and then the comics continue the character from the film and its sequel, but in the 21st century, as if the character is unaged in some versions, appropriately aged in others, and sometimes at a point in between.  (Comics have never been known for consistency, especially when a public domain character is being portrayed by different creative teams.)  The comic and the film are also pulled into the HCU (see later entries), so I must assume that they are relatives, but not the same person.  Much as the Frankensteins tend to have a genetic calling for reanimating life, so to do the Wests.  

Release Date:  October 7, 1994 (Contemporary Setting)
Series: Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Story:  A group of teens are hanging out in the woods following their prom and stumble upon the Sawyer farm house.
HCU Comments:  Fourth movie in the series, following Leatherface:  the Texas Chainsaw Massacre III.  This is the final film of the original series.  The film series has since been rebooted, but the reboot series is not part of the Horror Crossover Universe.

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