Thursday, July 16, 2015

ゴジラ Gojira Godzilla

King of Monsters!

Godzilla! A Primal force of nature manifest as an impossibly large dinosaur-inspired nuclear monster!  Also, a primal force of pop-culture manifest in movies, television shows, comic books, cartoons, novels, video games, lunch-boxes, and every form of toy or collectible imaginable!  There is no denying the impact Godzilla has had on both eastern and western culture.

Godzilla is something like Superman or Transformers in that there are multiple overlapping contradictory continuities within the franchise. However, with few exceptions, these reboots and retcons maintain a single point of origin for the character; most variations claim the 1954 film GODZILLA as the cornerstone of their individual Godzilla timelines. As this article is about Godzilla in the Television and Movie Crossover Universe, no single established Godzilla continuity will be considered 'correct' over the others, except as where they conflict with the reality of the TVCU.

The simplest explanation is that there is more than one creature known as 'Godzilla', making that designation a title, rather than a proper name. The second Godzilla movie claimed as much, and the presence of a newborn Minya / Minilla / Tadzilla is evidence enough for this research that the species is not unique to a single member. For the purpose of the TVCU, all the other Godzilla continuities are just additional 'hypertimes' of the TVCMultiverse, and vice versa the TVCU within the Toho Multiverse.

Most comedy sketches featuring Godzilla in a parodic manner, and commercials that use Godzilla to sell a product, are not considered part of the TVCU; we have realms like Skitlandia and the Promoverse for those. But there are exceptions to this as well, as will be demonstrated.

GODZILLA has crossed with:
Sky Captain
Mars Attacks!
Zone Fighters
Blue Öyster Cult
Robot Chicken
Lost World
And More!

The following is mostly just cut-n-paste info mentioning Godzilla from other TVCU posts. This post was initially written by Kevin Heim and completed by Robert E. Wronski, Jr.


Release Date: 1933 (Contemporary Setting, though later stories,such as Farmer’s After King Kong Fell, place the date in 1931, so that a film indeed was made in 1933 based on those events. Any versions that list this as 1933 in-story should be considered as likely confusing the true events with the date of the film release based on those events.)

Series: King Kong (Original)

The Story: A film director obtains a map to a little known island where he plans to film a picture. He gets a crew and some actors and they head off to Skull Island, where they find a land filled with primitives and giant animals, including King Kong, a giant ape. Actress Ann Darrow is kidnapped by the natives as a sacrifice to Kong. Kong takes her but doesn’t kill her, instead finding himself fond of her. Ann is rescued and Kong is subdued and returned to New York as an attraction. Surprisingly, bringing a giant monster into an overpopulated city turns out to be a bad idea. Kong breaks free, finds Ms. Darrow, and takes her to the top of the Empire State Building. Kong is shot down by biplanes, but Ann survives. In the end, it was beauty that killed the savage beast. Well, plus being shot and falling off the Empire State Building.

Notes: Even though these events happened in the Horror Universe, most of the world does not know of it, despite it being very public. Obviously, like with the War of the Worlds, there was a huge conspiracy by government and private concerns to cover things up. The making of the film, to come out two years after the events, being publicized as fictional, helped with this. Of course, in the modern era of iPhones, YouTube, and Facebook, it’s a lot harder to cover up something like this, but this was a different era after all. Note that the 2005 remake is the same story, just reimagined on film by Peter Jackson, which only can help support the fictionality of the events, as with other films and novels featuring Kong. This film is followed by the 1933 sequel, The Son of Kong. The film was remade in 1976, 1998, and 2005. It has been “non-cross” referenced in such films as Godzilla, Revenge of the Creature, and Gorgo. It has also been spoofed in such shows and films as The Addams Family, Gremlins 2, and Courage the Cowardly Dog.

Release Date: 2010 (Setting is 1933 to 1934)
Series: Tales of the Shadowmen
Horror Crosses: Godzilla
Non-Horror Crosses: Harry Dickson; Doc Ardan; Madame Atomos; Ashenden
The Story: Detective Harry Dickson in love?
Notes: Sorry, lame plot synopsis, but I haven’t purchased this one yet. I’m waiting for you to buy my book so I can afford to buy other people’s books. But seriously, the plot isn’t really relevant to the inclusion of this story within the Horror Universe. Godzilla is included in the Horror Universe. He was already brought in via his cross with King Kong. For a while I debated including Godzilla and other Japanese giant monster films in this book. I wasn’t sure if they were really horror. But they are monsters. So in the end, I decided they were a form of horror. In this book, Dr. Daisuke Serizawa appears, who was in the original 1954 Godzilla film. Incidentally, only us Yanks call him Godzilla. In its original Japanese, it’s Gojira. As for the non-horror crosses, Harry Dickson has probably been covered enough. Doc Ardan is a character who has also been conflated with Doc Savage, and I consider that to be canon for this book. Madame Atomos is a villainess from the series of stories by Andre Caroff. And Ashenden is the secret agent character of W. Somerset Maugham.


Release Date: September 17, 2004 (Setting is 1939)

Series: Sky Captain

Horror Crosses: King Kong; Godzilla

Non-Horror Crosses: Lost Horizon; Superman (Max Fleischer)

The Story: Sky Captain must stop a madman who wants to destroy the human race and start civilization over on a new world.

Notes: This film takes place in an alternate timeline. The events of King Kong and Son of Kong are referenced as having occurred. A newspaper headline refers to the events of Godzilla as recently having happened in 1939. In the main Horror Universe, the events happened around the same time as the the film, 1954. Though it is possible that Tokyo has been attacked by giant lizards in the past, the events of Godzilla seem to indicate that it’s a new thing for them, and also a result of post WWII nuclear testing. Shangri-La appears in this story. And in the film, Sky Captain battles giant remote control robots that were first seen in the 1940s animated Superman shorts. In this reality, they apparently debut a few years earlier. In the main Horror Universe, we might assume that the Superman shorts might be part of Horror Universe canon, but because those stories involve a Superman and supporting cast in Manhattan, rather than Metropolis or Cleveland, it’s best to assume the animated shorts are yet another divergent timeline.

Release Date: June 22, 1988 (Setting is 1947)
Series: Roger Rabbit
Animated Series Crosses: Mickey Mouse; Donald Duck; Alice Comedies; Pluto; Bucky Bug (Silly Symphonies); Goofy; The Merry Dwarfs (Silly Symphonies); Flowers and Trees (Silly Symphonies); Babes in the Woods (Silly Symphonies); Father Noah’s Ark (Silly Symphonies); The Three Little Pigs (Silly Symphonies); Toby Tortoise (Silly Symphonies); Water Babies (Silly Symphonies); Who Killed Cock Robin?; Elmer Elephant (Silly Symphonies); Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs; Ferdinand the Bull (Silly Symphonies); Pinocchio; Dance of the Hours (Fantasia); The Pastoral Symphony (Fantasia); The Nutcracker Suite (Fantasia); The Reluctant Dragon; Dumbo; Bambi; Pedro (Saludos Amigos); Reason and Emotion; Chicken Little (1943 Disney short); The Pelican and the Snipe; Peter and the Wolf (Make Mine Music); Song of the South; Johnny Appleseed (Melody Time); So Dear to My Heart; The Wind in the Willows (The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad); Alice in Wonderland; The Little House; Peter Pan; Paul Bunyan (1958 Disney short); Sleeping Beauty; Mary Poppins; The Jungle Book; Winnie the Pooh; Looney Tunes; Bugs Bunny; Daffy Duck; Porky Pig; Tweety and Sylvester; Foghorn Leghorn; Goofy Gophers; Road Runner; Speedy Gonzales; Marc Anthony and Pussyfoot; Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog; Of Fox and Hounds; One Froggy Evening; Dodo and the Frog; Droopy; George and Junior; Screwy Squirrel; Tom and Jerry; Betty Boop; Koko the Clown; Noveltoons; Popeye; Casper; Superman (Fleischer/Famous Studios); The Fox and the Crow; Woody Woodpecker; Andy Panda; Chilly Willy; Dinky Doodle; Mother Goose on the Loose; Mighty Mouse; Heckle and Jeckle; The Temperamental Lion; Garfield; Gandy Goose; Felix the Cat; Li’l Abner; Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy; Scooby-Doo!
The Story: When Marvin Acme, the owner of Toontown and the Acme Corporation is murdered, animation short star Roger Rabbit becomes the prime suspect, and detective Eddie Valiant must get over his prejudice towards toons to help clear Rabbit’s name and find the real killer.
Notes: In my previous book, the Horror Crossover Encyclopedia, I used Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein as my start point in connecting the dots of the Horror Universe. With this book, it was instantly clear to me that Who Framed Roger Rabbit? must my beginning. This film is a major crossover. Though the first cartoons considered canon for the Cartoon Universe date back decades before this, and there had been many cartoon crossovers before this, Who Framed Roger Rabbit? was the first to be able to so successfully (and legally) combine major characters from so many different classic animation studios. In this section, I will break down the crossovers by the studios they originate. This film also is significant in Cartoon Universe canon. This film explains that Toontown is a town that connects to Hollywood of the Live Action Universe. Clearly, though connected, the two towns are of different realities, as the laws of physics are applied differently in each location. And indeed, those from one reality seem to partially carry the laws of their world over with them to the other. For instance, a person from the Live Action Universe could be killed in the Cartoon Universe by something that a toon would survive from. Likewise, a toon maintains its characteristics in the Live Action Universe. This film also presents a notion seen occasionally in previous animation, in that, though toons are created by artists of the Live Action Universe, they actually live and work in the Live Action Universe. Thus, people in the Live Action Universe seem to know of and accept the existence of the Cartoon Universe, even if they seldom speak of it. This means that the Live Action Universe may seem to be a depiction of the Real Universe, but it is not in actuality. This film is based on a book, but the book lacks the crossovers and is not part of the Cartoon Universe canon. As for the crosses, let’s start with Disney. Disney characters can be broken down into four major categories for our purposes. That would be “the Mickey Mouse Universe”, the Disney Princesses, other animated works, and live action properties. I’m excluding from this the Muppets, Star Wars, and Marvel Comics, which were well known long before being acquired by Disney. ABC properties (also owned by Disney now) should also be considered separate, including Once Upon a Time. To discuss Disney, especially in relation to Roger Rabbit and the Cartoon Universe, I have to briefly discuss Kingdom Hearts. See the entry for that video game series for a deeper analysis. But for now, Kingdom Hearts presents a multiverse in which all the various Disney films seem to exist in alternate realities, separated and difficult to travel between. In the series, there are also four different versions of Mickey and friends, in different realities. Kingdom Hearts seems to contradict the Toontown concept introduced in Roger Rabbit and later seen in House of Mouse, Drawn Together, and others. Throughout this book, there are other examples to demonstrate that the Cartoon Universe is part of a larger Cartoon Multiverse. It is my belief, creating a theory relying on in-story information, that the Cartoon Universe is the Central Timeline as part of a multiverse which resembles the Hypertime formerly used by DC Comics, and that the Central Timeline is to the Multiverse as the post-Crisis DC Universe was to the pre-Crisis DC Multiverse. The Central Timeline, aka the Cartoon Universe, combines elements of other realities of the Cartoon Multiverse. Later, Batman: The Brave and the Bold will demonstrate that perhaps my analogy between the DC Multiverse/Hypertime and the Cartoon Multiverse is extremely appropriate. So for now, we will put Kingdom Hearts aside, as existing among other realities of the Cartoon Multiverse, and focus for the remainder of this entry on the proper Cartoon Universe, established by this film and the Toontown concept. So getting back to Disney, and it’s first category of Mickey Mouse, let’s discuss the “Mickey Mouse Universe”. This is not meant to imply a separate reality for Mickey, but meaning the group of characters that often are associated with Mickey Mouse. When it comes to the characters from the “Mickey Mouse Universe”, shorts from the early years had less crossovers, and it makes sense to list crossovers between the stars of the various shorts during those early decades. However, in the more modern era, seeing Mickey, Donald, Goofy and others is so common, that listing crossovers between them would be silly. Thus, for the characters of “the Mickey Mouse Universe”, crossovers between them will be listed only up to the debut of television’s Wonderful World of Disney in 1954. After that, appearances of characters from the Mickey Mouse Universe will not be listed as crossovers, but if, for example, a character from the Mickey Mouse Universe crosses with another series, that cross will be listed as a cross for that short character rather than a cross with the entire Mickey Mouse Universe. Of course, the first of the Mickey Mouse Universe to discuss would be Mickey Mouse. Mickey appears along other major animation icon Bugs Bunny in a scene involving Eddie falling out of a building. (Note that along with using the official styles of each characters, particularly in their 1947 versions, the characters were also mostly voiced by the voice actors who in 1988 were most known for providing that character’s voice.) Mickey first appeared in the animated short Steamboat Willie in 1928. He has since become the most iconic figure and mascot for Disney. He also shares my birthday. Based on the history of Mickey, there seems to be no indication that Mickey has ever lived outside of Toontown, which seems to have portals connecting it to Hollywood and most Disney theme parks of the Live Action Universe. In fact, you can visit Mickey’s Toontown as most Disney parks. As with the other characters I mention as crosses here, Mickey’s further history and connection to the Cartoon Universe is laid out throughout this book. In his life, he seems to have worked many jobs, including a time working for Interpol, but now seems to run Disney. Mickey’s girlfriend Minnie also appears, in a small cameo. She first appeared in Steamboat Willie as well. Goofy is a character that first appeared in the Mickey Mouse short Mickey’s Revue, originally called Dippy Dawg. (Perhaps his full name is Goofy Dippy Dawg.) Goofy was popular enough to get his own spin-off series. He would later work with Mickey for Interpol and become the super-heroic Super Goof, before finally settling down and becomeing a parent in Goof Troop. Pluto is Mickey’s dog. In the Cartoon Universe, there are anthropomorphic animals, and then there are also animals more like those in the Real Universe, though with relative higher degrees of intelligence. Pluto first appeared in the Chain Gang, but would later get his own spin off series of shorts. Horace Horsecollar also appears, who first appeared in the Mickey short The Plow Boy. Another of the Mickey Universe to appear is Clarabelle Cow. Clarabelle first appeared in Plane Crazy. Plane Crazy was actually the first Mickey Mouse cartoon created, but it tested poorly in test screenings. It eventually debuted publicly as the fourth official Mickey Mouse short in 1929. Clara Cluck, who also appears, first debuted in the Mickey short Orphan’s Benefit. The orphans from Orphan’s Benefit also appear. Note that Orphan’s Benefit has its own entry, as it’s the first time Mickey and Donald are seen together. Willie the Giant and the Golden Harp appear, who both originate from Mickey and the Beanstalk, an adaption of the classic Jack and the Beanstalk. This must be one of the numerous divergent timelines as demonstrated from Kingdom Hearts in which Mickey and friends existed in different forms in different time periods. But, they shouldn’t be the same divergent timelines from Kingdom Hearts. Kingdom Hearts demonstrates travel between worlds to be extremely difficult, while Roger Rabbit shows us the exact opposite. Donald Duck appears as a musical act partnered with Daffy Duck. Donald first appeared in 1934’s The Wise Little Hen. Though commonly associated as part of the “Mickey Mouse Universe”, he originated in this Silly Symphonies short, as a separate series star, and those Mickey and Donald are considered two separate series. Donald has lived a large part of his life in Toontown, but seems to have been born in nearby Duckberg (where life is like a hurricane). He also spent some time (off and on) in the Navy. Daisy Duck is Donald’s longtime girlfriend. She first appeared in 1940’s Mr. Duck Steps Out. Huey, Dewey and Louie also appear in a picture in a newspaper. They are Donald’s triplet nephews, the sons of Donald’s sister Della. They first appeared in the Donald Duck newspaper strip before coming to animation a few months later. They often visited Donald in the shorts, usually driving him crazy. Sometimes a fourth nephew, Phooey, appears. He was drawn by accident. He shouldn’t be canon. Later, it was explained that he was a freak incident of nature. A fourth nephew. Nothing more has been said of him, and it seems the Duck/McDuck family do not like to speak of him. The nephews would later live with Donald, until he left again for the navy in Duck Tales, after which they went to live with Uncle Scrooge McDuck. More recently, they have formed a boy band as seen in House of Mouse. This followed their finally aging to teenhood in the 1990s series Quack Pack. Jose Carioca makes a cameo. He was a friend of Donald’s first debuting in Saludos Amigos. Peter Pig first appeared in The Wise Little Hen with Donald Duck. He makes a cameo in the closing song from Roger Rabbit. Gus Goose is Donald’s cousin, who first appeared in the 1939 short Donald’s Cousin Gus. Donald’s flying jalopy from The Flying Jalopy also appears. Pete also appears. Pete first appears as a villain in Alice Solves the Puzzle. The Alice Comedies were about Alice, a girl from the Live Action Universe who found her way into the Cartoon Universe. Pete would later go on to be a villainous figure, often a nemesis to Mickey, Donald and Goofy, and later a neighbor of Goofy in Goof Troop. Chip ‘n’ Dale also appear in the film. Chip ‘n’ Dale started off as antagonists in Pluto cartoons, before moving on to pester Donald Duck. Eventually, they became the stars of their own shorts. Much later, you younger readers may be more familiar with them when they took on the role of Rescue Rangers. And they should not be confused with Chippendales, the adult entertainment club. Bucky Bug was a continuing character from Silly Symphonies whose “adventures” continued in the comic book Walt Disney Comics and Stories. Humphrey the Bear was a character who first appeared in a Goofy short, but then became a regular character in a few Donald shorts before getting his own starring spin-off. Though four Humphrey shorts were created, only two were released as Disney discontinued their short animated theatrical films before the remainder made it out. Mr. Walker appears in Roger Rabbit. Mr. Walker is actually Goofy, from his “everyman films”, particularly in this case Motor Mania, where Goofy is a Jekyll and Hyde sort, transfromed when he gets behind the wheel of a motor vehicle. Roger Rabbit seems to demonstrate Mr. Walker to be a separate character than Goofy, even if they are appear to be the same. The Merry Dwarfs also appear, who come from a Silly Symphony. The Flowers and Trees of the Silly Symphony of the same name also appear. The gnomes from Babes in the Woods, a Silly Symphony version of Hansel and Gretel, appear. There are numerous versions of Hansel and Gretel that make their way into the canon of the Cartoon Universe. So the question is, are they the same pair just portrayed in different interpretations, or are they different sets of siblings. At first, I wanted to cop out for simplicity and say that every interpretations should be the same pair, a theory I could then apply to all fairy tale characters, and by extension, all characters in animation that are based on characters that did not originate in animation. But, as we will soon get to, this very film demonstrates I have to consider them as separate as this film has both Bugs Bunny and the prototype version of Bugs Bunny as two separate characters. If they are different, then we have to consider that the Daffy Duck Robin Hood and the Disney fox Robin Hood are separate, that the Simpsons James Woods is not the James Woods from Family Guy, and that Mighty Mouse and Super Mouse are separate characters. And there is enough evidence to prove that out based on in-story examples. The sun seen in Toontown, thus the sun of the Cartoon Universe at least during that period, was the same sun from the Silly Symphony Father Noah’s Ark. Father Noah’s Ark is a retelling of the biblical tale of Noah and the Great Flood, which happened at some point in the past (and I’m not going to debate it on a religious scale). It would seem that this telling would be the official version of the Cartoon Universe. Oddly, though, later another version appears in Fantasia 2000, featuring what should be ancestors of Donald and Daisy. Thanks to Kingdom Hearts, though, we know that Donald exists in multiple realities, some of which place him in other time periods. So his Fantasia version likely exists in the established Fantasia alternate reality seen in Kingdom Hearts. So the Silly Symphony must be the main Cartoon Universe version. The Disney Silly Symphony versions of the Three Little PIgs, Zeke “Big Bad” Wolf, and Little Red Riding Hood also appear. Toby Tortoise appears, who was a recurring Silly Symphony character. The Water Babies also appear, who originate from a 1935 Silly Symphony short about water sprites. Jenny Wren (who resembles a bird version of Mae West) appears, who originated from the Silly Symphony Who Killed Cock Robin, based on the nursery rhyme of the same name. Elmer Elephant and Joe Giraffe from the Silly Symphony Elmer Elephant also appear. Ferdinand the Bull, also from a Silly Symphony, also appears, based on the Story of Ferdinand. Many characters from Fantasia also appear, including the broomsticks from the Sorcerer’s Apprentice. Fantasia exists in an alternate reality based on Kingdom Hearts. Thus, that Mickey is a divergent version. It should be noted though that the main Cartoon Universe Mickey is often seen with the famous hat and using its power, specifically in promotions for the Wonderful World of Disney and Disney theme parks. I will argue that perhaps the main Cartoon Universe Mickey may have had a similar experience as his Fantasia counterpart, but they are still different versions from different realities. One of the Fantasia bits that crosses over here is the Nutcracker Suite. This would be the version from the Fantasia reality, which apparently can connect to the main Cartoon Universe as easily as other realities. Other version of the Nutcracker will also be crossed into this guide, and as we come across each, I will address how they all can coexist. Pedro (the Plane) also appears, who originated as a short segment in Saludos Amigos, later rereleased as an independent short. Emotion appears. Emotion resembles a caveman, but is in fact part of the human psyche, as seen in the World War II era short Reason and Emotion. Chicken Little appears, from the World War II era short of the same name, based on “The Sky is Falling” fable. The 2005 animated film will also get included via a valid cross with Kingdom Hearts. At that point, I’ll discuss further how both can be in, but I’m sure the two stories are different enough to not cause contradiction. Monte the Pelican also appears, who originated from the Pelican and the Snipe, a World War II era Silly Symphony. Peter from Peter and the Wolf appears. This short is based on the musical composition and fairy tale, and likely takes place in the “Enchanted Forest”. There are other versions that will make it in that likely take place in alternate dimensions. The animals from Johnny Appleseed appear, but not Johnny himself. Johnny Appleseed was a short included as a segment in Melody Time. Though the film came out in 1948, the animals could still have existed in 1947, when Roger Rabbit takes place. And in fact, Johnny Appleseed takes place in the 18th Century, so their appearance is not at all anachronistic. If anything, those animals are just very long lived. The apartments and skyscrapers from Little House appear. Little House is a short that came out in 1952, but based on a story from 1942. Babe the Blue Ox from Disney’s 1958 Paul Bunyan short appears. Since the story of Paul Bunyan comes from folklore that existed prior to his first print appearance in 1916, the appearance is not an anachronism. The second Disney category is Disney Princess. According to Kingdom Hearts, all of the princesses exist in alternate realities which do not interact. However, Toontown based shows (following the Roger Rabbit tradition) such as House of Mouse and Drawn Together, portray the princesses not only living on the same world, but also living contemporary to each other in our present day. We must assume as with Mickey and company that the Kingdom Hearts worlds are divergent realities, while the Cartoon Universe is the main reality. According to Drawn Together, the “Magic Kingdoms” are accessible via portals accesssible at Disney parks, much as Toontown is. Applying what we know from Roger Rabbit, House of Mouse, and Drawn Together, and applying some other Disney based information from similarly themed Kingdom Hearts and Once Upon a Time, we might be able to come to a workable theory, and thus I shall try. Note, this is only a theory, based on what in-story information we have to go on. We already know that the Cartoon Universe itself seems to be made up of several overlapping realities. It could be that the realities of these Disney Princesses indeed exist in separate realities, very much as depicted in Kingdom Hearts, but unlike Kingdom Hearts, they are accessible to each other through a magical “Enchanted Forest” that lies between them all, in a manner that may make them all contemporary with each other as like on Once Upon a Time. This would mean this Fairy Tale Land exists in a seperate reality outside the Cartoon Universe, but that connects to the Cartoon Universe in a manner similar to the Live Action Universe. Because time operates differently there in Fairy Tale Land, as it operates differently in the Cartoon Universe, the stories can happen “once upon a time” and in contemporary times. Placing fairy tales in a separate but connecting reality can then also help explain the Hansel and Gretel dilemma above. Perhaps there is more than one version of Fairy Tale Land out there. Surely, if Mickey can exist in mutliple realities, so can Snow and Cinderella. Thus, not all versions of fairy tales seen are the same. They are likely all alternate versions from different pocket realities that connect to the Cartoon Universe. Snow White, the Evil Queen, the Seven Dwarfs, and the forest animals from Disney’s Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs appear. In the real world, Snow White was published in 1812, but likely came from earlier folklore. In the world of Disney, it seems as though the story takes place in some ambiguous “once upon a time”, and yet at the same time contemporary with other stories and characters from Disney of the same time as the Disney film release in 1937. (I’m not even going to go into the Once Upon a Time version’s timeline...for now. Shrek is another similar situation that will later be discussed.) Pinnochio also appears. Pinnochio, Jiminy Cricket and Lampwick also come from one of the “Magic Kingdoms” of the “Enchanted Forest”. Several characters from Wonderland appear. Disney’s Alice likely comes from the main Cartoon Universe, while Wonderland is a pocket reality attached to the Cartoon Universe similar to Fairy Tale Land, but those two realities are clearly different realms. Tinkerbell appears at the end, doing her classic Disney film ending, along with John Darling and a rhino from Peter Pan. Peter Pan came out in 1953. But it takes place in 1900. Neverland is another real like Fairy Tale Land and Wonderland. The Darlings, like Alice, must come from the main Cartoon Universe. Some goons and birds from Sleeping Beauty appear. Aurora (who is the Sleeping Beauty) comes from another of the Magic Kingdoms of the Enchanted Forest. Next we move to Disney’s third category, for other animated projects. The first of which is the Reluctant Dragon. Both the Dragon and Giles appear. The Reluctant Dragon was actually a short animated film that was part of a larger film of the same name that consisted of a live action tour of Disneyland, The Reluctant Dragon film, and three other animated shorts that are all not at all connected. Several characters from Dumbo appear in Roger Rabbit, including the flying elephant himself, who in this film is on loan from Disney to Maroon Studios and only works for peanuts. Of course, in this sense, one might wonder if the cartoons these toons were in were considered fictional within the Roger Rabbit film, especially since Roger’s shorts certainly seemed to be. But for the most part, every toon maintains the same characteristics behind the scenes (except for Baby Herman.) Based on later appearances of Toontown, we have to consider that appearances of toons here bring in their main canon, and that they must have made films based upon their real exploits and all starred as themselves in these films. Several Bambi characters also appear, including the title character. Bambi appears in his more youthful state, as seen in the bulk of his first animated film. In fact, almost every crossover appearance of Bambi shows him at that age, even in the modern era. We know that toons age differently than we of the real world, or even our fictional counterparts of the Live Action Universe. So it seems as though the ending of Bambi, where he is grown takes place in a future that hasn’t come to pass (and at least in one divergent timeline, doesn’t, thanks to Godzilla!) Many of the animated characters from Song of the South appear. Those animated characters for most of Song of the South appear to be fictional stories told by Uncle Remus of the Live Action main portion of the film. But by end, it’s clear they really exist, thus they must be from the Cartoon Universe while Uncle Remus and the live action portions are in the Live Action Universe. So Dear to My Heart, though not a sequel, was a follow up to Song of the South in theme. It featured a live action story with animation used in story telling. The animated characters appear in Roger Rabbit, but using Song of the South, we can assume the same relationship between the Cartoon and Live Action Universes apply. Though the film was released in 1949, the story took place in 1903, thus no anachronisms are present in this instance. Mr. Toad and Proudbottom appear from Ichabod and Mr. Toad, a film that featured two separate stories that were unrelated. Only the Mr. Toad portion is included here. The film is based on Wind in the Willows and takes place in 1906, even though it came out in 1949. A silouhite of Mary Poppins and penguin waiters from the same film appear in Roger Rabbit. Mary Poppins did not come out until 1964, but the story took place in 1910, thus there is no anachronism here. This crossover appearance implies that the animated characters from that film come from the Cartoon Universe while the main story takes place in the Live Action Universe. Characters from the Jungle Book also appear. The Jungle Book came out in 1967 but is set in the 19th century, so there are no anachronisms here. Piglet appears, from 1966’s Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree. However, since the original story by A.A. Milne takes place in 1926, there isn’t an anachronism. So now that we’ve covered Disney, it’s time to move onto their biggest competitor, Warner Brothers and their Looney Tunes characters. As with the Mickey Mouse Universe, there is a cut off when I will stop listing crossovers between individual stars of Looney Tunes shorts. I’m choosing 1960’s television debut of the Bugs Bunny Show. Any crossovers of Looney Tunes stars with other Looney Tunes stars will be listed if they were before that date, but not after. Before getting into Looney Tunes series, first there’s a sort of crossover with Looney Tunes as a whole. Sort of. The song “The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down” is sung twice, with different words, in Roger Rabbit. The first time it is sung by Roger as he entertains in a bar, and the second by Eddie to make the weasels die laughing. You may think you don’t know the song, but it’s the famed theme song for Looney Tunes. It was written in 1937 and became the Looney Tunes theme the same year, and has been associated with the Looney Tunes ever since. OK, so now onto the characters, and we start with the number one star of Looney Tunes, Bugs Bunny. Bugs Bunny, as stated earlier, appears with Mickey in one scene. They also appear with a group of toons at the close of the film. Bugs first appeared in the 1940 short A Wild Hare. However, in 1938, a prototype of Bugs appeared in a Porky short called Porky’s Hare Hunt. In Roger Rabbit, the Bugs Bunny prototype also appears, as a separate character, and so we must assume them to be two different individuals with similar appearance and characteristics. So Bugs is not a spin-off character of Porky Pig. But he is. The prototype is named Happy Rabbit, and later got his own shorts where he faced a hunter who was a prototype for Elmer Fudd named Egghead. Egghead first appeared in Egghead rides again. Since Happy and Bugs are considered separate, Egghead is not Elmer, though some shorts with Happy and Egghead have been considered to be Bugs and Elmer. Elmer officially appeared in 1940’s Elmer’s Candid Camera. In that film short, Elmer clashed with Bug’s prototype Happy. This would seem to make Elmer a spin-off of Happy who is a spin-off of Porky, but I think it’s clear that history sees Elmer as a member of the Bugs Bunny Rogues Gallery, and thus any appearances of Elmer is a reference to the Bugs Bunny series. Another of Bugs’ rogues to appear is Yosemite Sam, who leaps over the wall dividing Toon Toon from Hollywood after his rear end catches fire. Sam first appeared in Super-Rabbit. Mama Bear appears. This is the Looney Tunes Mama Bear from the short Bugs Bunny and the Three Bears. In this short, the three bears are almost identical to the Goldilocks fairy tale, but they are not the same. They are, however, aware of the fairy tale, and though cartoon logic, assume that if they attempt to reenact the classic tale, a little girl will come along for them to eat. But Mama Bear is out of porridge and makes carrot soup instead, which instead lures Bugs. Another of Bugs’ rogues to appear is Marvin the Martian. It’s interesting that Marvin would be in Toontown in 1947 when Bugs wouldn’t meet Marvin until 1948 in Haredevil Hare. Though Marvin is most well known for matching wits with Bugs, he would also feature in Daffy’s fictional accounts of Duck Dodgers, and ironically, would later be a foe of Daffy when he actually takes on the role of Duck Dodgers. Another rogue to appears is Toro the Bull, from Bully for Bugs, a short from 1953, so at this point in Roger Rabbit, Bugs and Toro have not officially met yet. During Roger Rabbit, at one point, Eddie uses Bugs’ famous catchphrase, “What’s up, Doc?” Daffy Duck appears with Donald in a dueling pianists scene. Daffy is a spin-off character who comes from Porky’s series, debuting in 1937’s Porky’s Duck Hunt. However, Daffy is such a grandiose character that I feel it would be unbefitting him to not give him his own recognition as a series star in his own right, and so I am not considering his appearance here as a cross with Porky Pig, but with Daffy Duck. Only Daffy could make me break my own rules. Speaking of Porky Pig, Porky is one of the older of the famed Looney Tunes. He first debuted in 1935’s I Haven’t Got a Hat. He appears in Roger Rabbit, working in Toontown as a cop, and for seemingly the first time, ends a show with his famous stuttering “That’s all, folks!” This phrase seems to have evolved. Originally, Jerry the Troublesome Tyke’s cartoon’s ended with “And That’s All!” In 1929, Warner Brothers started ending their Bosko with “So long, Folks!” and in 1930, “That’s all, Folks!” was said by Bosko at the end of the short. Other characters used one of the two variations up until the late 1930s at the ends of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies shorts, but Bugs would usually end with “And dat’s de end!” in his Brooklyn accent. It’s interesting to note Porky has a stutter because his original voice actor, Joe Dougherty, had a stutter, and it was easier to just go with it rather than edit it. Porky’s stutter so defined him that Mel Blanc continued it when he took over as Porky’s voice. Yoyo Dodo also appears, who originated from Porky in Wackyland. Wackyland may actually be the same 5th dimensional world that Mr. Mxyzptlk and Bat-Mite come from. Tweety and Sylvester both appear. Though I consider Tweety & Sylvester as a single series, the two originally started as separate series. Tweety first appeared in 1942’s a Tale of Two Kitties while Sylvester debuted in 1945’s Life with Feathers. The two first appeared together in 1947’s Tweetie Pie. Another Looney Tunes character to appear is Gracie the Fighting Kangaroo. Gracie is the mother of Hippety Hopper, and first appeared in Pop ‘Im Pop. This was also the appearance of Sylvester’s son, Sylvester Junior, and was part of a series of shorts to team up Sylvester and Hippety Hopper as adversaries, Sylvester mistaking the baby kangaroo for a giant mouse. Hippety first appeared in Hop, Look and Listen. Pop ‘Im Pop debuted in 1950 and Hop, Look and Listen in 1948. Roger Rabbit must take place before Hippety was born. Foghorn Leghorn also appears, who first appeared in 1946’s Walky Talky Hawky. Also appearing are the Goofy Gophers who first appeared in the short of the same name from 1947. The Road Runner appears, along with his nemesis, Wile E. Coyote. Both first appeared in 1949’s Fast and Furry-ous. Though they first appeared two years after Roger Rabbit is set, that doesn’t necessarily make any continuity conflicts. Their first short did not seem to be the first time the two have matched wits, so they may have lived out in the desert near Toontown for some time prior to their first short. One of the main characters of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is Marvin Acme. He is an original character from the film, but his character was the founder of the Acme Corporation, most famously known as the supplier of Wile E. Coyote’s various gadgets. In the real world, Acme first became a popular name for various businesses once the phone book was invented, in order to have their business listed first. Usually, this led to people ordering items, such as anvils, from catalogues that would bear the Acme logo. The first known appearance of Acme in fiction was in the 1920 silent film, Neighbors, with Buster Keaton. It has appeared numerous times in fiction. Since Acme is real, I don’t consider them all to be crossovers, unless it’s a clear crossover reference, such as in the case of Marvin Acme. Acme products have been used by Wile E. Coyote since his first appearance and at that point the name of Acme became most identified with Road Runner cartoons. Another connection between Roger Rabbit and the Road Runner happens at a scene at an Acme warehouse. One of the items is an animated black hole, that when place on a surface, actually becomes a real hole in that surface. This comes from the common animation gag of drawing a tunnel on a rock and making it a real tunnel, popularized in the Road Runner cartoons. Another Looney Tunes toon to appear who has super-speed abilities like the Road Runner is Speedy Gonzalez. Speedy first debuted in 1953’s Cat-Tails for Two, a parody of Of Mice and Men, with cat versions of Lennie and George. Speedy typically lives in Mexico, but apparently lived for a time in Toontown prior to his official debut. Speedy would later become a regular foe/partner in shorts with Daffy Duck and Sylvester. Marc Antony also appears. Marc Antony is a big bulldog, who is extremely protective of the cute little kitten Pussyfoot (sometimes also called Kitty or Cleo). The pair first appeared in 1952’s Feed the Kitty. This is when they first met, so it makes sense that Marc Antony is appearing in Roger Rabbit without his cute partner. Sam Sheepdog also appears, who was usually partnered up with Ralph Wolf in shorts. Ralph Wolf looks nearly identical to Wile E. Coyote, but they are not the same. They have different accents and speech patterns, and different colored eyes. They also have slightly different personalities. A Looney Tunes comic book from DC Comics revealed that Wile and Ralph are in fact cousins. Also appearing in Roger Rabbit is George the Fox, from Of Fox and Hounds. Of Fox and Hounds was also the debut of Willoughby the Dog. Michigan J. Frog also appears, who debuted in One Froggy Evening from 1955, thus this is his earliest chronological appearance. However, there is a continuity hiccup. In G.L. Gick’s story “The Werewolf of Rutherford Grange”, it’s revealed that Michigan was placed in that box and trapped in the building when it was build in the 1800s, and then discovered when the building was demolished in 1955. So this can’t be Michigan. One popular fan theory is that the frog seen, though intended to be Michigan, may actually be Fennimore Frog, from DC Comics’ Dodo and the Frog. Fennimore looks nearly identical to Michigan and it would explain away the continuity problem. Fennimore in fact first appeared in DC Comics in 1947, and was one of the more popular “funny stuff” characters at DC. In the 1980s, it was established that Fennimore existed on Earth-C, as part of the DC Multiverse. More recently, Earth-C has been renamed Earth-26, and is shown to still exist as part of DC’s New 52 multiverse. For the purposes of this book, we might assume that the Cartoon Universe and Earth-C/26 are not the same, but the pre-Captain Carrot Dodo and the Frog may have existed in both realities. Next we move into the characters who originated from MGM, though I believe they are now owned by Warner Bros. The first to discuss is Droopy. Droopy appears in Toontown operating an elevator. Droopy debuted in 1943’s Dumb-Hounded. The wolf from Dumb Hounded was meant to appear during the scene where Jessica Rabbit is performing, but it was cut. In Red Hot Riding Hood, it was revealed the wolf who was an adversary of Droopy was also the wolf from one variant version of Little Red Riding Hood that began in the traditional manner but then diverged into an alternate modernized retelling of the story. George, one half of the George and Junior team, appears. George and Junior were bears based on George and Lennie from Of Mice and Men. They debuted in 1946’s Henpecked Hoboes. The octopus from the George and Junior short Half-Pint Pygmy also appears in Roger Rabbit, working as a bartender. Since Half-Pint Pygmy was released in 1948, George and Junior have not yet encountered the octopus at this point. Screwy Squirrel appears in a framed picture on Lena Hyena’s wall and is also mentioned by a bar patron in Roger Rabbit. Screwy debuted in 1944’s Screwball Squirrel. Screwy’s adversary, Meathead Dog, also appears, sniffing around the Maroon Studios lot. Tom and Jerry were originally meant to appear, seen comforting each other at Marvin Acme’s funeral, but that scene was cut. However, since it was the writer’s and director’s intention to include them originally, I’m still counting appearance that were put in then cut as crossovers. Tom and Jerry debuted in 1940’s Puss Gets the Boot (where Tom was named Jasper and Jerry was named Jinx!) Another stronger connection between Tom and Jerry and Roger Rabbit occurs through the appearance of the witch from The Flying Sorceress, a Tom and Jerry short which was released in 1956, meaning the famous cat and mouse have not yet encountered her at this point. Spike also appears in Roger Rabbit. Spike is a supporting character in Tom and Jerry. He is a dog owned by the same family that owns Tom. Sometimes he is called Butch or just Bulldog. He has a son named Tyke. He first appeared in 1942’s Dog Trouble. Interestingly, his temporary name change to Butch occurred when Droopy gained a nemesis in 1949 named Spike who was nearly identical to Tom and Jerry’s Spike. Since that second Spike debuted in 1949, we can be assured that the Spike in Roger Rabbit is the one who debuted in 1942. The second Spike confusingly also was sometimes renamed Butch, and for a time spun off into his own series of shorts. Despite the shared name and appearance, they were separate characters. However, likely due to confusion from the next generation of animators, in the short lived 1980s Tom and Jerry Comedy Show, the two were conflated. Based on that, we could assume that both versions of Spike/Butch were always the same character, if not for Tom and Jerry: The Magic Ring and later Tom and Jerry movies in which the two dogs were again shown to be separate characters. So how then to explain that brief period of two years (1980 - 1982) when they were conflated? Since they were identical in almost every way, perhaps they were indeed identical brothers, one living a domesticated life with Tom and Jerry, while the other a more sinister path as Droopy’s constant adversary. In the Tom and Jerry Show, though seemingly the same character, he appeared in separate Tom and Jerry segments and Droopy segments, so it’s easy to presume the Tom and Jerry segments featured one brother and the Droopy segments featured the other. So which is Spike and which is Butch. It seems they both shared both names, but in the more recent canon, Tom’s pesky nemesis is named Butch and Droopy’s foe is named Spike. However, it’s safe to assume that whatever they were called, the characters they interacted with (Tom and Jerry or Droopy) determines which of the brothers we see. But in the Tom and Jerry films, they make clear that it’s Tom and Jerry’s friend and not Droopy’s foe, despite the bulldog’s interactions with Droopy. So that wraps up MGM. Let’s now discuss characters that originated from Paramount Pictures/Fleischer/Famous Studios. The company started off as Fleischer Studios, but when Paramount bought out the company in 1942, it was renamed Famous Studios. In 1956, it became Paramount Cartoon Studios. The first to discuss is Betty Boop. Boop oop a doop. (Sorry, couldn’t resist.) Betty Boop first appeared in 1930’s Dizzy Dishes. In Roger Rabbit, she is now working as a cigarette girl because she didn’t make the transition to color like other toons and so she has a hard time finding work in cartoons. In Roger Rabbit, she is still in black and white. Eddie Valiant, who prior to 1942, worked regularly in Toontown, seemed to be old friends with Betty, and though he hated most toons (due to one killing his brother), he was still extremely friendly to Betty. Wiffle Piffle also appears, who was one of the recurring antagonists in Betty Boop cartoons. Koko the Clown also appears, a character who debuted in 1919! His debut was in Out of the Inkwell, where the character would interact with his creator, Max Fleischer, another demonstration that toons were once aware of their fictionality, and that indeed the Cartoon Universe is a tulpa type reality brought to life based on the imaginations of people from the Live Action Universe. In the modern era, it seems that toons have lost their awareness of their relationship to the Live Action Universe, or at least they don’t talk about it as much. One very interesting cameo is that of the Noveltoons Joker, a jack-in-the-box that became the mascot of Noveltoons, and later Harvey Comics, starting in 1943. What’s interesting is the mascot only appeared as the opening logo for the cartoons, and on Harvey covers and in ads. Roger Rabbit is its only actual story appearance that I have found. Technically, though, and later entries will prove this point, even television commercials and print advertising has a place in the Cartoon Universe canon. Popeye also appears in the deleted scene at the funeral, along with Olive and Bluto. Popeye originated from the comic strip called Thimble Theatre. Thimble Theatre was a comic strip created in 1919, in which Popeye was first introduced in 1929. He soon became the star due to his popularity, and the strip was renamed after him. His first appearance in a cartoon was actually in the Betty Boop short Popeye the Sailor, in which Popeye literally came out to the comics and into the cartoon world. This would make the animated Popeye both an adaption of the comic strip, and a spin-off of Betty Boop, but due to his popularity and being the longest lived of the Fleischer Studios series, he does not get treated as a spin-off in this reference guide. The strip and cartoon, though similar, had enough differences to maintain that while the animated Popeye may exists in the Cartoon Universe, his comic version likely takes place in some alternate reality. In fact, his first animated appearance may have been that of his comic counterpart, considering the circumstances, with all his other animated appearances being that of the Cartoon Universe counterpart. Casper was also cut from his appearance at the funeral. The animated Casper is based on a children’s book from 1939. His first animated debut was in 1945. The cartoons made some changes from the book, so that we must consider the book to exist in some alternate reality. The Casper of the Cartoon Universe lives with other ghosts in a haunted house in the woods outside a community which is probably Toontown. He is actually not a dead human. In this case, ghosts are a separate supernatural species. Casper’s parents were also ghosts. The later Harvey Comics version is also a different reality. There, Casper lives in an Enchanted Forest, where fairytale characters exist. Likewise, the later live action films portray Casper as a dead boy named Casper McFadden, so these also take place in an alternate universe. (Note in the latter’s case, the live action films are referenced in my last book, the Horror Crossover Encyclopedia, as existing in the Horror Universe due to a crossover in the first of those films with Ghostbusters.) Superman also appears at the deleted funeral scene, comforting Mighty Mouse. This is the Fleischer Studios version of Superman. For the purposes of this reference guide, every different variation of Superman will be considered as a separate series, whether in animation or other mediums. Roger Rabbit only brings in at this time the version from the 1940s Fleischer/Famous shorts. This version of Superman originally could not fly, but by the end of the series could. He operated out of Manhattan rather than Metropolis. Other later entries (meaning post 1940s era, so you may have already read them if you are reading this in release date order) will reveal other versions of Superman existing in the same Cartoon Universe, while others seem to exist in alternate realities. The Superman of the various series tied to the main Cartoon Universe, whether it be from the Fleischer shorts, the New Adventures of Superman, the Super Friends, the 1988 Superman, or various cameos and guest appearances in other cartoons, are all the same Superman. While in my previous work with the Horror Universe (and before that the Television Crossover Universe), continuity was very important. In the Cartoon Universe, it’s been demonstrated that this is a reality with very flexible rules. Thus, it’s very possible that the characteristics of Superman could change over time, and seem different when viewed from the perspectives of different characters and communities of the Cartoon Universe. So the Superman appearing (almost) in Roger Rabbit could indeed be the same Superman who pops up from time to time in Family Guy! As we get to more Superman cartoon appearances, I will explore this issue some more. The Fox and the Crow are the only crossover from Columbia Pictures...and their scene was cut. They were to appear in Toontown when Eddie is looking for Jessica. But the crossover is still valid, so we can discuss them. They first appeared in 1941 in a modernized adaptation of the Aesop fairy tale. The duo continued to appear into shorts until 1950, but their legacy lasted even longer in comics. DC Comics gained the license for the characters and started the Fox and Crow as a comic series starting in 1945, when the golden age of super-heroes was dying down and being replaced by funny animals and westerns. The characters continued to be published by DC well into the 1960s. They would still continue to be referenced (as fictional) within the main DC Universe for decades after. Unlike with Popeye and Casper, the Fox and the Crow comic does seem to be the same version as the cartoons and so fits nicely in the Cartoon Universe. It should be noted that while DC Comics has established Earth-C (later Earth-26) as the home of their funny animal characters, the Fox and the Crow were never actually demonstrated to exist on Earth-C (26) until the Captain Carrot mini-series The Final Arc, a tie in to their Final Crisis series. There, they were shown to be part of Earth-26, the New 52 version of Earth-C. Earth-26 still exists as demonstrated by the recent Multiversity mini-series. Since the New 52 is a self-contained multiverse with a specific group of 52 alternate realities, it does not necessarily work with the Cartoon Multiverse. Which is good, because Earth-C/26 is a demonstratively different reality than the Cartoon Universe. Likely, the Cartoon Multiverse and DC’s New 52 are both multiverses within a larger Omniverse. Moving on to Universal Studios/Walter Lantz, we have an appearance by Woody Woodpecker, who first debuted in 1940’s Knock Knock. Buzz Buzzard is also seen. Though a recurring foe of Woody, at the time in which Roger Rabbit is set, Woody and Buzz (hey, Woody and Buzz, get it? Toy Story) have not yet crossed paths. Buzz first appeared in the 1948 Woody short Wet Blanket Policy. Papa Panda also appears, the father of Andy Panda. Both Andy and Papa debuted in Life Begins for Andy Panda in 1939. Chilly Willy is also mentioned by a man in the bar who is mocking Eddie’s clientele. Chilly Willy didn’t debut until 1953, but apparently he was still well known in Hollywood in 1947 to get referenced by the man in the bar. The bar patron also mentions Dinky Doodle, who first appeared in 1924. He also refers to Bo Peep. Bo Peep is of course a nursery rhyme, but since he’s referring to toons, it’s likely he means the Bo Peep from 1942’s Mother Goose on the Loose. Next we move on to Terrytoons, starting with Mighty Mouse, who was part of the cut funeral scene, where he was comforting Superman. Technically, Mighty Mouse first appeared, as Super Mouse, in 1942’s Mouse of Tomorrow. He was renamed Mighty Mouse in 1944’s The Wreck of the Hesperus. The Mighty Mouse comic book from Marvel Comics in the 1990s however made canon that Super Mouse was actually an alternate Earth doppelganger of Mighty Mouse. They were two distinct characters, much like the difference between the golden age/Earth-2 Superman and his later silver age/Earth-1 counterpart. Super Mouse is nicknamed Terry the First, and he doesn’t talk, while on the other hand, Mighty Mouse tends to sing...a lot. Both characters have had numerous varied origin stories, any of which could be correct given the nature of how the Cartoon Universe works. Heckle and Jeckle also appear, for debuted in 1946’s The Talking Magpies. The Temperamental Lion, from the 1939 short of the same name, appears in the final scene of Roger Rabbit. Thus far, all the crosses we’ve discussed make sense for an animated crossover story set in 1947. The next crossover to discuss seems more forced than logical. It’s like they said, “Hey, they gave us permission, so let’s do it. Who cares if it makes sense.” I’m talking about Garfield, who makes a “blink and you’ll miss him” cameo. Garfield. Yes, Garfield. He hates Mondays and historical continuity. He loves lasagna and illogical cameos. Garfield first appeared in a comic strip by Jim Davis in 1978. His leap to animation was 1982’s Here Comes Garfield. His animated appearances mostly fit perfectly in the same continuity as the comic strip, so both are considered part of the same canon. So why is Garfield in 1947 Toontown? How is Garfield in 1947 Toontown? Toons do age much slower than people in the real world, or even the Live Action Universe, so it could be Garfield is that old, and this is his earliest chronological appearance. But time travel seems to at times be relatively easy in the Cartoon Universe as well. And it doesn’t even have to make sense. So this may be 1988 Garfield popping back to 1947 for the sole purpose of making a cameo? So which is it? Doesn’t matter. All that matters is that Garfield is there, and thus Garfield is brought into the Cartoon Universe. Finally from Terry Toons is Gandy Goose. Gandy first appeared in 1938’s The Owl and the Pussycat and was often teamed with Sourpuss. From King Features Syndicate, only Felix the Cat is representing. Felix first appeared in 1919’s Feline Follies. United Features Syndicate also only has one representative, and that is Li’l Abner. Li’l Abner started as a comic strip, created by Al Capp, that began in 1934. In 1944, he transitioned to animated shorts that didn’t contradict the comic strip, thus we can conclude his appearance brings in both the strip and shorts as part of the same canon. The final group to discuss are the characters from Hanna-Barbera. Only two make it into Roger Rabbit, and both anachronistic. The first is Yakky Doodle. Yakky did have his own series, but he was a spin-off character, first appearing in an Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy segment of the Quick Draw McGraw Show in 1959. The other is Scooby-Doo! (Exclamation point apparently required.) Scooby first appeared in 1969 in television’s Scooby-Doo, Where are You! The same explanations apply as for Garfield. I do understand that Hanna-Barbera did not take off as a studio in its own right until 1957, but is one of the major classic animation studios, and so they felt it needed some representation.


Release Date: June 13, 1953 (Contemporary Setting)

Series: The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms

Non-Horror Crosses: When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth; Planet of the Dinosaurs

The Story: In the Arctic Circle, a nuclear bomb test causes the release of a Rhedosaurus who had been hibernating for 100 million years.

Notes: Though not the same one, a rhedosaurus also appears in prehistoric times in When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth, and in the future on another planet in Planet of the Dinosaurs. Since the Rhedosaurus is not a real historical dinosaur, this is a crossover. The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms is brought in via a later cross in Tales of the Shadowmen. This film has been “non-cross” referenced many times in films such as Godzilla, The Giant Behemoth, and King Kong vs. Godzilla. It was also spoofed in the Naked Monster.

1954--GODZILLA, aka GOJIRA (FILM)--King of Monsters rise for the first time in modern history, wakened by atom bomb testing. Some sources will claim that this dai kaiju (giant monster) has existed as such for millinia, while others claim Godzilla was once a 'normal' dinosaur mutated through atomic or extraterrestrial catalysts. The name "Godzilla" is an Anglicisation of the phonetic pronunciation "Gojira", which a portmanteau of two Japanese words meaning 'gorilla' and 'whale'. Godzilla is later established as a mutated godzillasaurus.

1962--KING KONG VS. GODZILLA (FILM)--Both monsters rise once more, menace civilization, and fight each other.  What else were you expecting? This is a Toho film that is a sequel in the Godzilla series, and the first of two Toho King Kong films, that is meant to be a sequel to the original King Kong.  Faro Island, which is where they find Kong, must be another name for Skull Island.  This obviously isn’t the original King Kong, but considering Son of Kong, and common sense, it’s doubtful that Kong would have been the only one of his kind.  There must be many giant apes, who do not live in tribes but isolate. For more King Kong crossovers, click here.


Release Date: 1967 (Contemporary Setting)

Series: King Kong (original)

The Story: King Kong returns, discovered by folks who visit the island, while a mad scientist creates his own mechanical version of Kong.

Notes: This is not the original Kong but the Kong who fought Godzilla. This film is based on the Rankin-Bass King Kong Show, which means this is also the same King Kong who appears in Mad Monster Party. Incidentally, I should point out the mad scientist in this movie is named Dr. Hu (pronounced “Who”). No relation to the Time Lord, and I’m not sure if this was intentional or coincidental. This film has been “non-cross” referenced in several films and has been spoofed in The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy.

1977-1979--GODZILLA (Marvel Comics)--Godzilla tussles with plenty of generic kaiju in this 24-issue series, but it is the interaction with established Marvel Comics' characters that make it interesting. S.H.I.E.L.D. (seemingly filling the role in the Marvel Universe of Toho's JSDF), Red Ronin, the Champions of Los Angeles, the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, Devil Dinosaur and Moonboy, the Amazing Spider-Man, and J. Jonah. Jameson all appeared in this series set firmly in the Marvel Universe (Earth-616). Due to the sliding scale timeline it is difficult to say exactly when these crossovers would have taken place in any reality with a fixed timeline, such as the TVCU. Later comics make use of the character of Godzilla after Marvel lost the license, under the non-copyrighted name of Leviathan, and with a redesigned appearance explained as the result of genetic mutation induced by the villainous Dr. Demonicus (a character that originated in the Godzilla comics), and has appeared in issues of THE WEST COAST AVENGERS, IRON-MAN, THE THING, and THE UNCANNY X-MEN.

1978-1981--GODZILLA POWER HOUR (Hanna-Barbara / Toho cartoon)--This animated series featured a Godzilla with very distinct physical and mental characteristics, as well as a "nephew" in the form of the flying 10-foot tall Godzooky. No established characters appeared in this series, but there was a lost city of Atlantis that was actually an extraterrestrial colony, which coincides with the treatment of Atlantis in the STARGATE franchise. Creatures from mythology, such as the Sirens and the Chimera, also made appearances. This series has been placed in the Tooniverse due to the appearance of Hanna-Barbara's Godzilla on an episode of DRAWN TOGETHER.

December 1979--GODZILLA--"Island of Doom"--From Salvatore Cucinotta: "Cobra" appeared in the 70s Godzilla cartoon from Hanna Barbera. The episode is "The Island of Doom".

1987 and 1989--SUPER SCARY SATURDAY--That time grandpa monster met Jim Cornette and Michel P.S. Hayes while the managed King Kong and Godzilla

1988 (at the latest)--SCOOBY-DOO AND THE GHOUL SCHOOL (ANIMATED FILM)--Shaggy, Scooby, and Scrappy takes jobs as coaches at an all-girls school, that turns out to be an all-girl monsters school.
The crosses with Godzilla and the Creature from the Black Lagoon bring in not only the 80s Scooby movies, but also the Hanna-Barbera versions of Dracula and Frankenstein Monster, likely another soul clone and copycat creation, respectively.  Their daughters are on the school’s volleyball team.  At the end of the film, two new students are females from the same species as both the Gill-Man (Creature from the Black Lagoon) and Godzilla.  Note that there must be more than one of the Gill-Man species, and in fact, there are in-story references that state that the Gill-Man is the same as the Deep Ones of Innsmouth and the Silurians from Doctor Who. As for Godzilla, it would seem that there is also more than one of this species.  In fact, in the classic series of films, it’s stated that the Godzilla from the original film was destroyed, and the one from the rest of the films was a second one.

1989--REAL GHOSTBUSTER #6 "VIDEO NASTIES" (NOW COMICS)--Peter Venkman and Egon Spengler have a conversation about the Ecto-4, still in development, in which it is pointed out that Egon installed a Flux Capacitor, which could be useful if they ever go up against Godzilla.

1992--GODZILLA VS. BARKLEY (TV Commercial)--The Nike commercial depicts Basketball player Charles Barkley as a 50 meter tall giant who plays some one-on-one with Godzilla in Tokyo.  The 1993 comic book adaptation (seriously, this really happened) places the action in an unnamed coastal city in California (ostensibly meant to be Los Angeles) and the nearby Scarfe Air Force base. 

1992--BUREAU 13: DOOMSDAY EXAM (Novel by Nick Pollatta, 1992)--During a jailbreak from a B13 holding facility, “Zigzagging past Sing-Sing Boulevard, Connie gasped as she saw a ten meter-tall lizard waddling down the street on its plump hind legs. As the beast spotted us, the enlarged dorsal fins began to pulse with a greenish light”. The monster proceeds to spray radioactive flame at the B13 van. At approximate 30 feet, this monster is not any Godzilla we have seen in a movie, but it may be an immature example of the species.

Release Date: October 1, 1992 - ongoing at time of writing
Series: Cartoon Network
Animated Series Crosses: The Addams Family (Animated); The Addams Family (1992 Animated Revival); Adventures of Aquaman; Adventures of Gulliver; Adventure Time; Almost Naked Animals; Alvin and the Chipmunks; Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan; Amazing Spiez!; The Amazing World of Gumball; Angelo Rules; Animaniacs; Aqua Teen Hunger Force; Arabian Knights; Astro Boy; Atom Ant; Atomic Betty; Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy; Baby Looney Tunes; B.A.E.: The Bremen Avenue Experience; Bakugan; Banana Splits; Barney Bear; Batman Beyond; Batman: The Animated Series; Batman: The Brave and the Bold; Battle of the Planets; Beany and Cecil; Beetlejuice (Animated); Ben 10; Beware the Batman; Beyblade; Big Baby; Big Bag; The Big O; Birdman; Blue Dragon; Bob Clampett Show; Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo; Bomberman Jetters; The Brak Show; Breezly and Sneezly; Buford and the Galloping Ghost; Bugs Bunny; Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids (Animated); Calling Cat-22!; Camp Lazlo; Capitol Critters; The Captain and the Kids; Captain Caveman; Captain Planet; Cardcaptors; Cartoon Cartoon(s)/What a Cartoon!; Cartoon Planet; Casper and the Angels; Casper’s Scare School; Cattanooga Cats; Cave Kids; CB Bears; Centurions; Chaotic; Chop Socky Chooks; Chuck Jones Show; Chuck Norris: Karate Kommandos; Clarence; Clue Club; Code Lyoko; Codename: Kids Next Door; Courage the Cowardly Dog; Cow and Chicken; The Cramp Twins; Cyborg 009; Daffy Duck; Dastardly and Muttley in Their Flying Machines; DC Nation; Dennis the Menace (1986 Animated); Detentionaire; Deviln; Dexter’s Laboratory; D.I.C.E.; Dingbat; Dink, the Little Dinosaur; Dino Boy; Don Coyote; Dragon Ball Z; Dragon Hunters; Droopy; Duck Dodgers; Dudley Do-Right; Duel Masters; Dynomutt; Ed, Edd n Eddy; Ed Grimley; Evil Con Carne; Fangface; Fantastic Four (1992 Cartoon); Fantastic Four: World’s Greatest Heroes (2006 Cartoon); Fantastic Max; Fantastic Voyages of Sinbad the Sailor (1996 Cartoon); Firehouse Tales; Flintstone Kids; Flintstones; Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends; Frankenstein, Jr. (Hanna-Barbera); Freakazoid!; Funky Phantom; Galaxy Goof-Ups; Galaxy Trio; Galtar and the Golden Lance; Garfield; Gary Coleman Show; Generator Rex; George of the Jungle; George of the Jungle (2007 reboot); Gerald McBoing-Boing; G-Force: Guardians of Space (Reboot of Battle of the Planets); G.I. Joe; GoBots; Godzilla (1990s Cartoon); Goober and the Ghost Chasers; Gordon the Garden Gnome; Gormiti; Grape Ape; Green Lantern: The Animated Series; The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy; Grojband; Gumby; Gundam; .hack; Hamtaro; Harlem Globetrotters (Animated); Harry and His Bucket Full of Dinosaurs; Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law; Heathcliff; Help!... It’s the Hair Bear Bunch; He-Man and the Masters of the Universe; Herculoids; Hero: 108; The High Fructose Adventures of Annoying Orange; Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi; Hillbilly Bears; Hokey Wolf; Hong Kong Phooey; Hot Dog TV; Hot Wheels; How To Train Your Dragon; Huckleberry Hound; I am Weasel; Idaten Jump; Immortal Grand Prix; Impossibles (Hanna-Barbera); Inch High, Private Eye; Jabberjaw; Jackie Chan Adventures; James Bond Jr.; Jetsons; Johnny Bravo; Johnny Test; Jonny Quest; Josie and the Pussycats; Justice League; Knights of the Zodiac; Krypto the Superdog; Kwicky Koala Show; La’Antz and Derek; Laff-A-Lympics; Land Before Time; Late Night Black & White; League of Super Evil; Legends of Chima; Lego Ninjago; The Life and Times of Juniper Lee; Lippy the Lion & Hardy Har Har; Li’l Abner; Little Robots; Long Live the Royals; Looney Tunes; The Looney Tunes Show; Loopy De Loop; MAD; Magilla Gorilla; MAR; Marmaduke; Martian Successor Nadesico; The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack; Max Steel; Mega Man; Megas XLR; MetaJets; Midnight Patrol; Mighty Magiswords; Mighty Man and Yukk; Mighty Mightor; Mike, Lu & Og; Mr. Men Show; Mister T; Mixels; Moby Dick (Cartoon); Motormouse and Autocat; The Moxy Show; !Mucha Lucha!; Mumbly; My Gym Partner’s a Monkey; Nacho Bear; Naruto; Neon Genesis Evangelion; New Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (1992 Animated); Ninja Robots; O Canada; One Piece; Outlaw Star; Over the Garden Wall; Ozzy & Drix; Pac-Man; Paw Paws; Pecola; Pepe Le Pew; Peppa Pig; Perils of Penelope Pitstop; Pet Alien; Peter Potamus; Pink Panther; Pirates of Dark Water; Pixie and Dixie and Mr. Jinks; Pokemon; Popeye; Porky Pig; Pound Puppies; Powerpuff Girls; Precious Pupp; Prince of Tennis; Princess Natasha; The Problem Solverz; Punkin’ Puss & Mushmouse; A Pup Named Scooby-Doo; Quick Draw McGraw; Rad Roach; Rave Master; Real Adventures of Jonny Quest; ReBoot; Redakai; Regular Show; Rescue Heroes; Richie Rich; Ricochet Rabbit & Droop-a-Long; Road Rovers; Road Runner; Robotboy; Robotech; Robotomy; Rocket Jo; Rocky and Bullwinkle; Roger Ramjet; Roman Holidays; Ronin Warriors; Ruff and Reddy Show; Run It Back; Rurouni Kenshin; Sailor Moon; Samurai Jack; Scan2Go; Scaredy Squirrel; Scooby-Doo!; Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated; Screwy Squirrel; Sealab 2020; Secret Mountain Fort Awesome; The Secret Saturdays; Secret Squirrel; Shazzan; Sheep in the Big City; Shirt Tales; Shmoo; Sidekick; Silverhawks; Sitting Ducks; 6teen; Skatebirds; Skunk Fu!; Sky Commanders; Small World; Smurfs; Snagglepuss; Snooper and Blabber; Snorks; Sonic the Hedgehog; Space Ace; Space Ghost; Space Ghost Coast to Coast; Space Kidettes; Space Stars; Speed Buggy; Speed Racer; Spliced; Squiddly Diddly; Squirrel Boy; Star Wars: Clone Wars; Static Shock; Steven Universe; Stoked!; Storm Hawks; Sunday Pants; Super Chicken; Super Friends; Super Hero Squad Show; Superman: The Animated Series; Supernoobs; The Swashbuckling Perils of the Adventures of the Men & Jeremy; SWAT Kats; Sym-Bionic Titan; The Talented Mr. Bixby; Taz-Mania; Team Galaxy; Teddy Blue Eyes; Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003); Teen Titans; Teen Titans Go!; Tenchi; Tenkai Knights; Tennessee Tuxedo; Tex Avery Show; The Batman; These Are the Days; Thundarr the Barbarian; ThunderCats; ThunderCats (2011); Time Squad; Tiny Toon Adventures; Tom and Jerry; Tom and Jerry Kids; Toonami; ToonHeads; Top Cat; Total Drama; Totally Spies!; Touche Turtle and Dum Dum; Track Rats; Transformers: Armada; Transformers: Beast Wars; Transformers: Cybertron; Transformers: Energon; Transformers: Robots in Disguise; Tweety and Sylvester; 2 Stupid Dogs; Uncle Grandpa; Underdog; Valley of the Dinosaurs; Voltron; Wacky Races; Wait Till Your Father Gets Home; Wally Gator; Waynehead; We Bare Bears; Wedgies; What a Cartoon!; Whatever Happened To… Robot Jones?; Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch; Where’s Huddles?; Wildfire; Winsome Witch; Winx Club; Woody Woodpecker; Wulin Warriors; Xiaolin Showdown; X-Men: Evolution; Yakky Doodle; Yippee, Yappee and Yahooey; Yogi Bear; Yoko! Jakamoko! Toto!; Young Justice; Young Robin Hood; Young Samson; Yu-Gi-Oh!; YuYu Hakusho; Zatch Bell!; Zixx; Zoids
Other Crosses: Bobb’e Says; BrainRush; Destroy Build Destroy; Dude, What Would Happen; Goosebumps; Hole in the Wall; Incredible Crew; Level Up; My Dad’s a Pro; The Othersiders; Out of Jimmy’s Head; Re: Evolution of Sports; Run It Back; Slamball; Survive This; 10 Count; Thumb Wrestling Federation; Tower Prep; Unnatural History
The Story: Several short stories featuring numerous Cartoon Network characters, original and acquired, in various shared reality segments.

Notes: Since its inception, Cartoon Network has run numerous promos that featured it’s original characters and acquired properties in original short segments that demonstrate that everything seen on Cartoon Network, original or reruns from other networks, takes place in the same shared reality. Most of the segments take place at the Cartoon Network studios, or the town the studio is set in, which seems to be Townsville from the Powerpuff Girls. I conjecture that Townsville is nearby Los Angeles and Toontown. However, there is evidence elsewhere, in Phineas and Ferb, that Townsville is part of the same Tri-State Area as Dansville from Phineas and Ferb. There are several areas in the United States that are known as the Tri-State area, and California is not in any known “tri-state area”. Note that some of the series above are not part of the main Cartoon Universe. Also, some of these series exist in the past for future. Clearly Cartoon Network has access to travel between time and alternate realities.

1995--Godzilla Versus Hero Zero.In  San Diego for Comic Con  Teen SuperHero Hero Zero Battles Godzilla  

1998--GODZILLA (TRI-STAR PICTURES )--A semi-reptilian kaiju emerges near a French Polynesian island and makes its way underwater to Manhattan Island. Based on one survivor's description, the American press labels the creature Godzilla, which it is clearly not. It is theorized in the film that the beast was a marine iguana mutated by radiation. The French send a covert ops team to the US to handle the situation. The US Military makes a mess of Manhattan, and the ersatz Godzilla makes a mess of the US Military, while protecting its nest (this particular monster is hermaphroditic and laid several dozen eggs inside Madison Square Garden). The Frenchmen claim to work for an insurance company named Lao Che, which is the same name as the villain at the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
This movie did NOT happen in the TVCU. If it had, New York City would have been decimated in 1998. However, the 2004 movie GODZILLA: FINAL WAR shows that the 1998 version of Godzilla does exist in the Toho Multiverse, where he was originally mistaken for Godzilla by the Americans but is now known as Zilla. Because the reality of the TVCU is in the same multiverse as the reality of that movie (due to the shared character of Godzilla), the character of Zilla must also have a counterpart in the TVCU, albeit with a different set of events in its life. So too must Philippe Roaché (played by Jean Reno) and his secretive French commandos exist in the TVCU, allowing at least for the possibility that they have connections to a firm called Lao Che. Another version of Zilla is used in the follow-up animated series GODZILLA: THE SERIES (1998-2000), where the beast is still referred to as Godzilla, and its one surviving offspring travels the world fighting other monsters (this series has no crossovers with established characters owned by Toho or not, but it does feature a few creatures of legend, such as Quetzlcoatl and Nessie). A skewed, less destructive version of the 1998 fiasco exists in an apocryphal version of the TVCU, as confirmed in the April Fool's Day blog, where a hatchling Zilla is designated as a Ginomorph

Release Date: July 1 - September 1, 1998 (Contemporary Setting)
Series: Spider-Man; X-Men
Horror Crosses: Godzilla
Non-Horror Crosses: Avengers; The Shadow; Doc Savage
The Story: Kang the Conquorer’s latest scheme threatens the multiverse.

Notes: This story takes place in the Marvel Universe, but at one point, alternate realities are shown, including those of the Shadow, Godzilla, and Doc Savage. Thanks to Army of Darkness vs. Marvel Zombies, we know that indeed the Marvel Universe and Horror Universe are part of the same multiverse.

Release Date: May 16, 1999 (Contemporary Setting)
Horror Crosses: Godzilla; Mothra; Rodan
The Story: The Simpsons visit Tokyo.

Notes: When flying out of Tokyo, the plane the Simpsons are on gets caught in a battle between Godzilla, Mothra, and Rodan. Godzilla is in the Horror Universe via a cross with King Kong. This cross brings in Mothra and Rodan, as well as the Simpsons. See my notes on this series above. This episode will be spoofed in 2015’s Hotel Transylvania 2.

Release Date: March 31, 1998 (Setting is 2001)
Series: Godzilla
Horror Crosses: Lovecraft’s Cthulhu Mythos
The Story: At the South Pole, science students find the awakening of an ancient people, who are appalled by the humans who now populate their world, and create cybernetic monsters which they set loose. They devastate South America, Russia, and China, before arriving in Japan where they face Godzilla.
Notes: These ancient ones are the Old Ones from Lovecraft’s At the Mountains of Madness. This is part of a series of novels, which has to take place in a divergent timeline. I do place the original films in the Horror Universe, but here in this story, for example, a huge portion of the world is devastated, which would really alter the rest of the Horror Universe and its views. Additionally, the socio-political structure of the world in this story is not like the real world. Therefore we must assume this to be a divergent timeline. This story is preceded by Godzilla 2000 and followed by Godzilla vs. the Robot Monsters.

Summer 2003 – MONSTER HUNTER INTERNATIONAL--Accountant Owen Pitt kills his boss upon learning that he is a murderous werewolf, and is recruited by Monster Hunter International, a company that kills monsters to cash in on secret government bounties. Owen is told that The Creature from the Black Lagoon was based on a true story, and that both HP Lovecraft and JRR Tolkein based their works on stories they heard from monster hunters. MHI battles the Old Ones. Upon hearing the main villain referred to as “CO”, Owen thinks “After having seen him, and feeling a taste of his power, calling the evil creature something so innocuous seemed a little silly. The residents of Tokyo didn't call Godzilla “Big G.”” Julie Shackleford mentions “the Vanni Fucci incident in Dothan”. Earl Harbinger compares the agents of MHI to famous monster hunters of the past, including Odysseus, St. George, Beowolf, and “Van Helsing with firepower”. (Vanni Fucci is a historical person and a minor character in Dante’s Inferno; this particular reference is to the characters appearance in Dan Simmons short story “Vanni Fucci is Alive and Well and Living in Hell”, in which the character briefly gets out of Hell and appears on an Alabama televangelists program.)

2004--GODZILLA--A MASER tank is a vehicle created in the Japanese Godzilla movie series. This would make Signal Flare's Terrorcon counterpart Cruellock, who is patterned on the 1998 American-movie version of Godzilla. MASER tanks never really worked all that well against whatever giant monster was stomping around each week.  Development sketches from Aaron Archer reveal that part of the inspiration for Signal Flare's vehicle mode was the distinctively-shaped Cobra H.I.S.S. tank from the G.I. Joe toy line.  I don't consider the American version of Godzilla in the TVCU, though, or the TVCU2 for that matter, but it could be it happened in the Mirror Universe?  That maser tank gets a lot of mileage. It even appears in multiple Godzilla continuities (Showa, Heisie, X Mechagodzilla). They also show up in Ultraman, Project A-Ko 2 and Fight! Iczer 1.  and Sgt frog apparently  It's also totally Canon with soul caliber.

2005 – SECRETS OF JAPAN--The existence of Godzilla within the Lovecraft Mythos RPG CALL OF CTHULHU is confirmed in this sourcebook, though the daikaiju is referred to as "Gazira" for copyright purposes. Gazira is demonstrated to be an enemy to most Mythos forces in the Pacific Ocean, particularly near the Sea of Japan, though he does not show any particular concern for humanity. CALL OF CTHULHU: SECRETS OF JAPAN, Chaosium, 2005

Spring 2005 – MONSTER HUNTER LEGION--While tracking a monster with an unusually large PUFF bounty on its head, an MHI team wonders what it could be, with suggestions ranging from Godzilla to Dracula riding Godzilla.

January 2006--DRAWN TOGETHER "Super Nanny"--The animated Godzilla appears, which places the original cartoon in the Looniverse. 

APOCRYPHA: June-December 2006--6/6/6: THE VOYAGE OF THE BEAST-- (best ignored by actual G-Fans) 
Hangar 18 in Marseilles, France
Ivan reports on board the USS Lagos Isle on June 6, 2006, and begins a 6-month deployment that takes him to France, Italy, Cyprus, the UAE, and Bahrain. Most significant on this voyage are the two trips to France, which involved working with the French agency Félicie at a local Hangar 18 to study an egg recovered from Madison Square Gardens in 1997, and the subsequent hatching of an alien / kaiju hybrid designated a "Ginomorph". In addition to Félicie and Ordnance forces, Ivan works with the Vatican, Norway's Troll Security Service, the British DMOA, genetic engineer Luthor Praetorius (prodigy of Septimus Pretorius), anthropologist Victoria Waddell, and zoologist Misty Dawn to pursue and subdue the beast. It eludes them at the Chateau d'If and they wind up chasing it across southern Europe. They ultimately dispose of it in Mount Vesuvius near Pompeii in Italy, with help from the Blackhawks.

Ivan with the baby Ginomorph
USS Lagos Isle is named for the Pacific island where US Marines battled a dinosaur during World War 2 (fromGODZILLA VS KING GHIDORAH, 1994), Félicie is from the DELTA GREEN role playing game supplements for CALL OF CTHULHU, The Ginomorph is a TVCU version of the creature from the American GODZILLA film (1998). The Troll Security Service is from TROLL HUNTER (2010), The DMOA is from WAITING FOR GORGO (2009).  Septimus Pretorius first appeared in the film BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN (1935). Victoria Waddell is the fictional grand-daughter of an actual British explorer,Lieutenant Colonel Laurence Austine Waddell. Misty Dawn, DMV, is an original character created by Debbie Lyman, and is NOT related to the porn actress of the same name. The Blackhawks are a military aviation squadron dating back to World War Two from Quality Comics and DC Comics, first appearing in MILITARY COMICS #1 (1941). The Chateau d'If was the location where Edmund Dantes was imprisoned in THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO (1844-1845) by Dumas. Vesuvius and Pompeii feature in many works of fiction, including DOCTOR WHOHIGHLANDER: THE SERIESFOREVER KNIGHT, and BLACKWOOD FARM (a 2002 novel by Anne Rice combining her The Vampire Chronicles and The Mayfair Witches franchises).

Release Date: December 26, 2006 (Contemporary Setting, some weeks after the Lilith War)
Series: Nightside
Horror Crosses: Lovecraft’s Cthulhu Mythos; Shoggoth’s Old Peculiar; Dracula (maybe Love at First Bite); Godzilla; War of the Worlds (novel); Gravel
Non-Horror Crosses: Soylent Green; The Time Machine; Philip Marlowe; Shadows Fall; Maltese Falcon; Back to the Future; A Midsummer Night’s Dream; League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
The Story: After war has left the Nightside without leadership, Jeremiah Griffin plots to fill the void. But when his granddaughter goes missing, he hires John Taylor to find her, using his special abilities. However, something is blocking those abilities.

Notes: John comments that the Griffin library probably has the Necronomicon. There is a brewery called Shoggoth’s Old and Very Peculiar. This is a reference to the Cthulhu Mythos and Neil Gaiman’s Shoggoth’s Old Peculiar. There is a mobster named Kid Cthulhu. There is a very drunk Dracula who has been driven out of his castle by the Communists and has to pay alimony to his brides. This might be a reference to Love at First Bite. Whether it is or not, I would propose this to be another soul clone. There is a reference to Godzilla, though not by name. In a bit of a parody, he is treated as a has-been monster. There is a drug called Martian Red Weed, a reference to War of the Worlds. One place that John visits in his investigation is guarded by combat magician Gravel. John mentions that since the war, a lot of the Nightside restaurants are serving Soylent Green. (Soylent Green is people.) There are some Morlocks at the Strangefellows bar. These are the creatures who exist in the far future in H.G. Wells’ Time Machine. There have been different origins for the Morlocks in the Horror Universe. The initial idea was that they were an evolutionary offshoot of humanity. Other stories have tied them to the Mi-Go of Lovecraft’s Mythos or the descendants of Moreau’s experiments. Whatever the case, these Morlocks are probably from the future, as the Nightside exists outside time and space. John remarks that if Philip Marlowe had had this case, he would have quit and become a plumber. Old Father Time is mentioned. He is a character from Shadows Fall. Also appearing are Bruin Bear and Sea Goat. They are characters from Shadows Fall as well. Their realm is a place where imaginary characters exist, and even real people reside there if they become legends. In many ways, this is similar to Imaginationland from South Park or the Land of Fiction seen in Hellblazer. They may be the same place. It may be that the animated beings brought to life such as the Looney Tunes characters may actually be pulled from this realm. Another character remarks that Griffin’s wife would buy the Maltese Falcon just so that nobody else could have it. A Delorean is spotted, “still spitting discharging tachyons”. Clearly this is the same time machine from Back to the Future. Two elves from A Midsummer’s Night Dream appear. One attendee at a party is Lady Orlando, whose description matches that of Orlando from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Release Date: December 2, 2009 (Contemporary Setting)
Series: Hack/Slash
Horror Crosses: Lovecraft’s Cthulhu Mythos; Frankenstein (Mary Shelley); Hellboy; Buffy the Vampire Slayer; Godzilla
Non-Horror Crosses: Archie (See Notes)
The Story: In her continuing quest to recreate reality, the entity known as Mary Shelley Lovecraft tries to alter the town of Haverhill, transforming it from the typical slice of Americana to a Lovecraftian horror story.
Notes: Mary Shelley Lovecraft is a recurring foe of Cassie. She is an otherworldly entity that sees everything as fictional and can traverse through alternate realities. She is obsessed with rewriting reality. Her name is chosen for the inference to Mary Shelley and H.P. Lovecraft. In this story, she turns Deep Ones (from Lovecraft’s Shadow over Innsmouth) into creatures like the original Frankenstein Monster. Mary mentions that with all the monster hunters running around, she is lucky not to have run into that red devil boy with the horns, a reference to Hellboy. She also compares Cassie to the more popular Summers girl, meaning Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Mary also brags that she is Cthulhu, Frankenstein, and Godzilla all rolled into one. The town of Haverhill is a parody of Riverdale, and indeed the characters of the town are all parodies of Archie and his supporting cast. Cassie has been here in a previous story. However, since this is a parody, I’m choosing not to use this to bring in Archie. However, in reverse, Riverdale was actually based on the real town of Haverhill, Massachusetts. Since there are no indications that the comic book or cartoon versions of Archie exist in the Horror Universe, there’s no reason not to believe that this version from this story isn’t the Horror Universe counterpart of Archie and his gang.

October 2010--FAMILY GUY--"Halloween on Spooner Street"--Mayor Adam West passes out candy to a kid dressed as Batman. The real Adam West starred in the title role of the classic campy 1960's TV show of the same name. A monster resembling Godzilla is shown getting blown up by Stewie's rocket after it misfires.

Release Date: September 4, 2012 (Contemporary Setting)
Series: Monster Hunter International
Horror Crosses: Lovecraft’s Cthulhu Mythos; Godzilla; Dracula (novel)
The Story: The MHI team must stop an ancient god from returning in Las Vegas.
Notes: All MHI books have Lovecraftian references. When referencing a monster, they compare it to ”Dracula riding Godzilla”. In the first MHI novel, Van Helsing and Godzilla are both referred to as real.

2013--HELL TO PAY (Novel by Larry Correia, Baen Books, 2013)--“Not far away, half-spilling out of a private booth and ostentatiously ignoring the old vampire, was the Thing That Walked Like an It. Star of a dozen monster movies back in the fifties, now it was reduced to signing photos of itself at memorabilia conventions. There’d been a whole bunch of them the week before, reminiscing about all the cities they’d terrorized in their prime. Now, if it wasn’t for nostalgia, no one would remember them at all. (The Big Green Lizard was banned from the convention circuit because of his refusal to wear a diaper after the “radioactive dump” incident.)” The "Big Green Lizard" is a clear reference to Godzilla.

2013--PACIFIC RIM--At the climax, Gypsy Danger slips into the alternate universe from which the kaiju originated. In the far distant background is an eye imprisoned in crystal, which is the Ogdru Jahad from Hellboy. A distorted, static-infested version of Godzilla’s roar plays during the montage of the early days of the Kaiju wars. This is a sly, winking reference that the 2014 Godzilla remake takes place in the Pacific RIm timeline (or, at least, a version of it does).

May 20, 2014--JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE--Lie Witness News on Jimmy Kimmel Live asked people on the streets of their opinions about exploiting the 'real' Godzilla attack on Tokyo for the purpose of making movies. Some people took the bait, mean that they live in the TVCU, the Toho Multiverse, or worse, some dark cave in the recesses of their minds.

TVCU Crew Review!

This week I posed the question:  Anyone here have any theories regarding multiple Godzillas coexisting in the same reality, to explain variations on the character?  This sparked a very lengthy multi-day discussion with lots of involvement from many folks.  The major consensus seems to be that Godzilla is a reference to a type of creature, and that there are indeed more than one.  In fact, the second Godzilla film mentions that the first Godzilla was indeed killed and that the one appearing in the follow-up Toho films is a second Godzilla.

A new ad for Toho Cinemas sees the Minions of Despicable Me fame meetGodzilla.In an animated [...]

Godzilla as he appears in the GURPS Warehouse 23 sourcebook. It also claims the Orson Welles War of the Worlds as a real thing.

So I've Been thinking about Sky Captain and the Godzilla problem mainly how can godzilla be on a Newspaper in 39 when he doesn't attack even wake up till 54 but then i remembered the Dark Horse comics run did a story were godzilla travels thru time and randomly appears places so this could Explain his Sky Captain appearance. I also like to Think Sky Captain is the Unnamed aviator seen in Axel Brasses group in Planetary

This is a spoof done by MTV right around the time"GODZILLA" was at its prime. If you liked this movie go to where you can find s...

Given how long both Godzilla and Shin-chan have been extremely popular in Tokyo and for overseas fans, you’d think they would have been official residents by now, right? That wasn’t the case up until recently, with both Shin-chan and Godzilla both being given official residency papers of their birth…

Despite the vast amount of crappy movies he's been in, Godzilla is still pretty awesome -- and his presence certainly makes any movie better, right?

Okay this is a weird one. This is a soccer video game from '92 featuring teams consisting of characters from Godzilla (who's already in the TVCU), Gundam, Ultraman, and Kamen Rider.
Perhaps this is the same athletic Godzilla who challenged Charles Barkley!

Battle Soccer: Field no Hasha

Legendary's Godzilla 2 hits theaters in 2018 and Toho are releasing a new Godzilla movie in 2016!...

The last issue of Godzilla: Rulers of the Earth came out last week, and snuck in just one more crossover reference -- to Mystery Science Theater of all the wonderful things. They earlier had a Creature from the Black Lagoon reference (the ship "Rita" which made the trip to the black lagoon manages to haul another horror back to the civilized world -- the eggs of Megaguirus). The longest running Godzilla comic has been a blast -- though now we get James Stoke's "Godzilla in Hell" so that's definitely a soothing balm to that sting.

JULY 17, 2015--SUPER-TEAM FAMILY PRESENTS: GHOSTBUSTERS VS GODZILLA (Faux Comicbook cover assembled by Ross Pearsall)--Issue #1190 in an epic series of crossovers that should have been.
Super-Team Family--The Lost Issues



Release Date: July 12, 2013 (Setting is the 2020s)

Series: Pacific Rim

Horror Crosses: Hellboy (film); Godzilla (2014); Godzilla (original)

Non-Horror Crosses: Portal; Doctor Who

The Story: A portal opens that sends giant monsters from their dimension to ours over a period of time, a few at a time. The humans fight back by creating giant robots.

Notes: Pacific Rim takes place in a divergent timeline. Even though the main story is set in our near future, the monsters are said to have started to show up in 2013. When Gypsy Danger travels to the monster dimension, the Crystal Prison from Hellboy is seen. In flashbacks to the early days of the war against the monsters, Godzilla’s roar is heard, lining up with the 2014 Godzilla film. The GLaDOS operating system in this film is from the Portal video games. Some argue that the drift technology in this film is a crossover with Doctor Who. Others say it’s not. I’m including it and letting the reader decide. The Serizawa Scale is used to determine the size of the monsters (called kaiju). Serizawa was the scientist in the original Godzilla film. One of his family was also an expert in the 2014 film. The 2014 film references that the original events from 1954 also happened. It seems that the Pacific Rim timeline may have diverged during the events of the original Godzilla film.

Alternate Versions:

Yes, even this character has counterparts in other realms.

AFTERLIFE WITH ARCHIE--A horror themed alternate reality for the Archie Comics characters.  Crossovers include:  "The Music of Eric Zann",  "Godzilla is Yig", Cthulhu, shoggoths and other Lovecraftian entities, the Necronomicon, Dr Lovecraft, Kandarian demons

In Marc Cerasini’s Godzilla novel Godzilla at World’s End, Miskatonic University is mentioned.
In the Godzilla movie Godzilla-Mothra-King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack, the 1998 American Godzilla is mentioned. It’s mentioned that a giant monster attacked New York a few years ago, and one Japanese soldier comments that he thought that was Godzilla, to which his friend says “That’s what the Americans claimed, but our scientists have their doubts.” Godzilla would go on to fight different versions of “Zilla” in both the movie Godzilla: Final Wars and in IDW’s comic Godzilla: Rulers of Earth.

GODZILLA DIVERGENT TIMELINE--In the alternate timeline where Godzilla rose and attached New York City in 1998, The insurance company Jean Reno claims to work for is named Lao Che, which is the same name as the villian at the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

Bonus.  Horror Crossover Universe! --Godzilla

Crazy IvanLive action movies I place in the Loonieverse include George of the Jungle and Dudle Do-Right, as well as Godzilla vs Hedoah (the Smog Monster). But when a movie like Roger Rabbit, Space Jam, or Rocky & Bullwinkle makes a clear distinction between the reality the cartoon characters live in and the reality that the humans live in (so does Cool World, but there's no crossover for that one that I know of). Robert E. Wronski, Jr.As for George and Do-Right, those are live action remakes, so they would be in the Cineverse. Cool World has no crossover connections, so likely is in the Cineverse and Tooniverse. I actually think Rocky and Bullwinkle is in the TVCU, because of a reference in Crossovers. I'm curious how you connect the Godzilla film to the Loonivers. Crazy IvanThe Loonieverse already has a version of Godzilla, as seen in the old Hanna-Barbara series (w/ Godzooky, the Jar Jar Binks of dai kaiju) and an episode of Drawn Together. In the movie Godzilla vs Hedorah, the Big G dances, flies, and generally acts like a dilweed in light of the awful majesty that IS the King of Monsters in every other G-flick (except maybe the one that's just a dream sequence in which a kid thinks Minya can talk and change his size). I'll point out that the movie ALSO has animated sequences, which is why I feel justified in thinking this is a live movie of the Looneyverse Godzilla, rather than, say, the lame-o-verse version of Godzilla. Robert E. Wronski, Jr.Just being animated is not enough to bring something into the Looniverse. Let's be clear there is a difference between the Looniverse and the Tooniverse. The Looniverse is connected via crossovers whereas the Tooniverse contains all cartoon. It's the same distinction between the TVCU and Toob World. But the Drawn Together connection does bring the cartoon into the Looniverse, and probably dancing Godzilla.

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Robert:   When I was little, my parents didn’t let me watch R rated movies. But I was allowed to watch anything that was on any of the six channels our television received. So I got to see older films and edited for television films. I fondly remember on Saturdays watching the Creature Double Feature, which showed old Universal, Hammer, Godzilla and B-1950s sci-fi monster films. I was very interested in scary stories, particularly with a supernatural element. Of all the monsters, vampires were my favorite, and I even admired Dracula’s character.

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